#dev 2023-03-26

2023-03-26 UTC
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prologic
👋 Consider using zs for your next static site (or if you're stick of your current tools 🤣): https://twtxt.net/twt/j3v5owq
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Loqi
[preview] [prologic] 🥳 NEW: zs v0.3.x released! Notable highlights: Ability to override the default markdown extensions. Ability to add global site-level configuration and variables. Check out zs.mills.io for the demo site 👌 – Other sites built with zs include:...
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[manton]
[aaronpk] This sounds like the issue where we don’t reconcile different Micro.blog “accounts” together… So `@aaronpk`, `@aaronparecki.com`, ActivityPub, etc. I need to make it so that these are all the same thing.
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aaronpk
Well here's my post if it helps you troubleshoot. I have 3 micro.blog icons with all the permalinks of its copies https://aaronparecki.com/2023/03/22/45/tokyo
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Loqi
[preview] [Aaron Parecki] Tokyo at night First edit from last night's photo walk around Shinjuku Shot on LUMIX GH5II Edited in Lightroom https://aaronparecki.com/img/1240x0/2023/03/22/45/photo.jpg
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[manton]
[aaronpk] Thanks. That looks a little different than what I thought. It looks like it accidentally created 2 separate threads for the Mastodon replies. I’ll try to figure it out and fix it.
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prologic
[manton] I have the same problem now too, how do we reconsile that (for example) that https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/ (profile page, AP actor) and https://twtxt.net/user/prologic/twtxt.txt (Twtxt feed) and even @prologic@twtxt.net are all the same identity?
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prologic
I have have to adjust mention filters to account for the fact I could be mentioned via my AP endpoint or Twtxt feed or both
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prologic
Also on another note, I guess you're still not seeing my @-mentions from my pod to your micro.blog actor inbox?
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prologic
Q: Is it reasonable to assume (and even correct) that an actor's Inbox, for example, https://example.com/users/johndoe can be mapped back to a Web Finger discoverable account/address of johndoe@example.com ? 🤔
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aaronpk
Not as far as I know
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aaronpk
since that WebFinger format isn't in the AP spec and isn't part of delivering any messages either
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prologic
I think its become pretty pseudo-standard though right?
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prologic
I mean pretty much every Mastodon server out there and pretty much every AP implemtnation supports webfinger lookups
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dwag
hey
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k1
Hi. Just wanted to chime in that I love this chat client! Do you have the source code published? Also, it would be great if it handled security exceptions and popped up a message that you need to have cookies enabled.
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[jamietanna]
Looks like https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/ is the source code k1, feel free to raise an issue / PR, always happy to improve what we've got 👏
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k1
Thank you, I was looking for it all over the indieweb website
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Soni
we really think we should have a human-scale web search protocol
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Soni
which sounds a lot like gopher tbh
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k1
I like the concept of https://github.com/cweiske/phinde that indexes your own sites and the pages you link to. Should be good enough for 99% of use cases. But seriously, could we perhaps link to this at places one would be looking for (pages such as discuss, developers, projects, discuss_infrastructure, ...) I now found it at the very bottom hidden behind the text "chat.indieweb.org logs source code" (I usually also search for git/github,
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k1
but cloaked links aren't searched by most browsers) https://indieweb.org/discuss#See_Also
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Loqi
[preview] [cweiske] phinde: Self-hosted search engine for your static blog
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Soni
we wonder if we could mostly just use gopher
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Soni
maybe run it over http to get the benefits of http (Host header, TLS, SNI, compatibility with load balancing, etc)
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k1
Why not use gemini then?
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prologic
https://gopher.mills.io/ is exactly that
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Soni
prologic: okay, where's the search box?
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prologic
there is none
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prologic
:)
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prologic
I heard something about gopher :D
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Soni
prologic: okay, how do you shove that into an existing website? :p
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Soni
but no, gopher does support search box
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prologic
oh this thing is just https://git.mills.io/prologic/gopherproxy
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Soni
so like, if we could have "gopher over http", maybe with a /.well-known/gopher, with full support for search, and then we joined that with a normal website, that could be pretty cool
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prologic
There's also a desktop client as well https://git.mills.io/prologic/gopherclient
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Soni
oh, so it's not the gopher protocol
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Soni
it's just another gopher gateway
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prologic
it is, but its proxying HTTP -> Gopher
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prologic
Yup
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Soni
we want gopher encapsulation, not gateway
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prologic
I see
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Soni
in other words, raw gopher packets, with an HTTP header on top
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prologic
Isn't Gopher basicalyl just HTTP 1.0 though?
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prologic
You basically have it already
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Soni
no, gopher has search
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prologic
Which you can do with a POST
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Soni
no, gopher has search as a protocol feature
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prologic
it does?
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prologic
since when?
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prologic
did I like just totallly miss that in the spec or somethign? :)
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Soni
yes, RFC 1436, type 7
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Soni
we think gopher is much more amenable to human-scale search than http
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Soni
it'd basically enable something like the webring equivalent of search
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Soni
ppl here like webrings yeah?
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prologic
hmm
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prologic
I have to admit I'm quite confused
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prologic
item type 7 is the equivilent of a POST request in HTTP terms
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prologic
it sends a "search terms" to the gopher daemon with a tab followed by the search query
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prologic
I really wouldn't call that "search built into the protocol"
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prologic
more like "user input"
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k1
It is called just input in gemini
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Soni
[KevinMarks]: that's for local site search, not webring search
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@Tagaroggu
I don't use TikTok but what the fuck is going on, Congress? At the very least be fucking tech literate before trying these hearings. Not to mention the shit that is S.686, "Restrict Act." I would not be surprised if it comes back to blog posts and webmentions.
(twitter.com/_/status/1640021963006410753)
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