#dev 2023-03-29

2023-03-29 UTC
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benatkin I use srcdoc. srcdoc works with the combination of offline and sandboxing without allow-same-origin, that's why I'm using it, and it works pretty well.
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benatkin but there's something new coming that will allow me to keep allow-same-origin - credentialless - but it's Chromium-based-only and nonstandard currently https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/IFrame_credentialless
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benatkin https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/582
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benatkin I dunno if offline is off-topic for indieweb...
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benatkin I guess it depends on if I have any application of it
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Loqi [preview] [mikewest] #582 "credentialless" embedder policy.
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[tantek] what is offline
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Loqi offline is anytime you're not online and connected to the internet; on the IndieWeb, a personal site can have offline support by implementing an offline first approach https://indieweb.org/offline
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> How can I join the SWICG meeting today?
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> Zoom? https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2023Mar/0208.html
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> It looks like there was a bit of a conflict over the venue.
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> It looks like I'll be skipping that meeting. It conflicts with London / Europe HWC.
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[tantek] capjamesg, I saw Gregor updated the IndieWeb event for the meeting
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Loqi Social Web Incubation Community Group informal meeting 2023-03-29 10am PDT per https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2023Mar/0124.html
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek] on 2023-03-23 at 5:45pm PDT
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[tantek] Weird conflict/drama. W3C groups regularly use zoom
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[tantek] Tbh I’m ok with folks that are that argumentative opting out. That's a feature not a bug
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[tantek] My experience in web standards / collaboration is that's the most efficient (least community labor) way to help sustain a more positive community. See the reading / citations here for more: https://microformats.org/wiki/mailing-lists#Why_to_avoid_negative_behaviors
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prologic This is pretty cool :D https://zs.mills.io/#we-can-even-do-slides
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> [tantek] Yeah. Weird indeed
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[manton] [snarfed] Great demo at FediForum. 👍
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[snarfed] thanks [manton]!
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[tantek] [snarfed]++ thanks for helping bridge communities, you're always so good at that. you too [manton]++
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[snarfed] aww thanks! looking forward to [manton]'s demo tomorrow!
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[pfefferle] [snarfed]++ [manton]++
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[manton] Thanks for chairing that session [tantek]. Seemed like a great start to making some progress.
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[manton] I would love to see more Mastodon API clients move to Micropub + Microsub, although I’m not sure I articulated that well. Also not sure if that is realistic given the widespread use of the Mastodon API.
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[manton] I’m more confident about a minimal profile for ActivityPub server to server, though. Seems like there was good consensus on the need for it.
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[pfefferle] [manton] Is it possible to send activities like "follow, unfollow, ..." via Micropub?
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[tantek] btw minutes: https://www.w3.org/2023/03/29-social-minutes.html
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[snarfed] [pfefferle] yes with the right mf2, eg u-follow-of
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[snarfed] tantek++
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[tantek] [pfefferle], [snarfed] is being humble, you can even send activities like "follow, unfollow, ..." via BridgyFed by posting a /follow or /unfollow post with microformats on your blog and sending a Webmention
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[pfefferle] hmmm...
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[pfefferle] I think I have to dig into Microsub a bit, which seems to be the "following" list provider then?!?
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[pfefferle] so micropub+microsub == C2S && ActivityPub/Webmentions == S2S
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