#dev 2023-04-04

2023-04-04 UTC
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IWDiscordRelay <L​unarequest#0122> any way to test webmentions locally?
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[tantek] can you run two webservers "locally"?
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I believe the spec says localhost is not a valid target?
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[KevinMarks] You can use the .local DNS, or do it with IP and ports on 2 machines. Or 1 machine and 2 ports I suppose.
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GWG [jamietanna]: Can I prevail on you re https://github.com/indieweb/Micropub/issues/13
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[snarfed] Lunarequest send a same-site webmention, ie from your local web server to your local web server
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[snarfed] capjamesg spec says avoid localhost in prod, which is true, but you definitely want to allow it when testing locally etc since it's so useful for debugging. https://webmention.net/draft/#avoid-sending-webmentions-to-localhost
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> snarfed++
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Loqi snarfed has 86 karma in this channel over the last year (135 in all channels)
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capjamesg Have y'all seen this? https://begin.com/
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capjamesg > Own your identity with your own domain and indieauth.
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capjamesg > Keep your products connected with built-in support for Webmentions.
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[snarfed] Wowww that is at least a seven figure domain, must be well funded, exciting that they're indieweb friendly!
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capjamesg What is Begin?
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Loqi 🎉 Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/begin
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[snarfed] Oh this us Brian LeRoux's thing, @brianleroux@indieweb.social , I don't know if he's been on chat much but he's been posting about indieweb dev stuff for a while
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[snarfed] https://brian.io/
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[manton] That is a really good domain name. This looks interesting!
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[snarfed] so it's a cloud hosting platform, functions/PaaS dinner like Lambda or App Engine or Vercel, so developers build their own applications, but they also advertise built in webmention and mf2 support, which I don't quite understand
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[snarfed] no explanation on https://begin.com/docs yet
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I’m not sure about how the IndieWeb building blocks are used either.
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[tantek] perhaps they have default templates that support them?
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[aciccarello] It looks cool but I'm also very confused what's behind the scenes of the cli. Like I'm not sure what the product is from the flashy website.
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[jacky] dang webmention.app is still down 😞
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aaronpk oops why
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[aciccarello] That was the vercel issue
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[aciccarello] This mirror is up right now https://webmention.netlify.app/
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[aciccarello] Here's the post about the site going down https://remysharp.com/2023/01/30/on-vercel-if-some-of-my-sites-are-down
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[jacky] dang notes to take when running a service in public
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[tantek] ^ that feels like useful wisdom to capture on the wiki somewhere
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[tantek] like part of scaling from cook what you want to cook for you and your friends, neighbors, community
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[schmarty] ooh https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/04/03/introducing-trurl/
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aaronpk neat