#dev 2023-04-28

2023-04-28 UTC
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[0x3b0b] How had it not occurred to me until just now, with a post that the preview already showed me the full content of anyway, that I can usually paste a fediverse link into my own site to view it without enabling javascript for the source instance?
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epoch saw a post on HN about XFN (XHTML Friends Network) and recognized the name of one the of authors. :)
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[jamietanna] GWG sorry not yet, will try to get to it this weekend :crossed_fingers::skin-tone-4:
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bkil 0x3b0b: Indeed. https://github.com/bkil/static-wonders.js/blob/master/userjs/mastodon.user.js
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bkil [snarfed]: https://indieweb.org/annotation#Annotation_Sites_Enable_Abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_annotation#Comparison_of_web_annotation_systems
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@vanzasetia Hi everyone! I add Webmention to my homepage. You can be on my homepage too. You can visit my page to know how to do it. https://vanzasetia.site/ #indieweb #webmention (twitter.com/_/status/1651962613377425410)
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@samuelgoto ↩️ @aaronpk surprised / disappointed blue sky didn't use IndieAuth rather than DNS records ... (twitter.com/_/status/1652014595631124481)
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@aaronpk ↩️ I think the DNS verification makes sense for this step, but they should absolutely use IndieAuth/OAuth for logging in to client apps instead of the password auth they currently have. (twitter.com/_/status/1652015021839519745)
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jose_ Hi indieweb. Does anyone here use IFTTT to grab insta posts and send to a webhook? is that a common practice? (I'm new to the whole syndication thing and am looking to get my feet wet with tweets and insta to start with)
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[snarfed] yeah many of us have played around with IFTTT and Zapier, they can be usefu.l
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[snarfed] limited though, esp Instagram
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[snarfed] [aaronpk]'s OwnYourGram was a more industrial strength version. also see https://snarfed.org/backfeed-without-code , https://snarfed.org/2015-01-22_pesos-for-bridgy-publish
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jose_ thanks.
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jarenado so for I went to indieauth and it picked up the rel='me' links on my site, do I just need to add a link to insta and start there?
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DavidAKennedy Hey folks! Looking for some advice. Setting up notes on my own site. What's common for the RSS feed of notes: Using the text as the title, a date or something else?
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aaronpk RSS doesn't do well with notes. ideally you would use an empty title, but some readers don't like that
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aaronpk i believe granary.io truncates the text of the post to something kinda short and uses that with ...
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[schmarty] waits for the rest of aaronpk's sentence 😂
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DavidAKennedy Thanks aaronpk! To start, I have the date as the title, but was thinking about trying some kind of truncation.
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aaronpk whatever it is, it won't be a good experience for people using RSS readers 😂
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aaronpk i just left out my notes and only include my articles in my RSS feed
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aaronpk sadly RSS is "done"/"frozen"/"complete" and will never be updated to more modern types of posts
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aaronpk so i encourage people to follow my higher fidelity feeds
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DavidAKennedy Yeah, those are great points, and part of why I was struggling.
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[0x3b0b] re: IFTTT and Zapier, I was looking around several months ago at services in that space and wound up on Pipedream for what I was doing at the time (although I also have IFTTT). I think Pipedream is a great option for a lot of stuff.
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[0x3b0b] re: feeds, apparently Microblogpub uses https://feedgen.kiesow.be and doesn't provide a title for notes in either Atom or RSS. Which makes the feed preview in Vivaldi show no title when previewing RSS and show the permalink as if it were a title when previewing Atom. The Atom preview is also showing all the html entities, and I've previewed atom feeds rarely enough I have no idea whether that's normal.
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aaronpk XML--
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Loqi XML has -1 karma over the last year
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[0x3b0b] I shall now inflict on you the knowledge that what your comment reminded me of is the time I wrote an xslt for transforming wddx to pretty-printed JSON because - if I remember the reason correctly - I was not authorized to upgrade php (actually I think it might have been PECL json) on the server I was dealing with to a version that supported a pretty-print flag, and I wanted to serialize some information to JSON to send to a
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[0x3b0b] Hoptoad-compatible error logging service.
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[0x3b0b] I was pretty pleased with how well I got it to work.
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[tantek] "RSS doesn't do well with notes" <-- and this is why RSS(any version) is insufficient for any kind of blog (or social media) archive format. cc: [manton]
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bkil PTSD flashbacks due to our chat bot following RSS only showing the title and it is mostly random what various sites put into the title. Hence why I needed to implement a dirty hack to cherry pick useful information from the feeds we follow in random ways and put it into the title. https://github.com/bkil/osm-rss-juggler/tree/master/src/main/scala
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[tantek] DavidAKennedy, my Atom feed has notes, you can take a look to see what I attempt to do there: https://tantek.com/updates.atom (short version, jam the entirety of notes into RSS titles, dropping any raw URLs from the start)
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[tantek] oh no wait, that's what it used to do! I dropped that a while ago and now serve empty titles except for a test element to demonstrate a common bug in Atom readers: <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="if-your-feed-reader-displays-this-then-it-is-violating-the-Atom-spec-RFC-4287-section-4.2.14"/>
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[0x3b0b] As far as jamming entireties of things into things, Tantek is also the reason one of the changes I need to get contributed back upstream on Microblogpub is a | truncate(200) call