#dev 2023-06-12

2023-06-12 UTC
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[KevinMarks] Neat https://front-end.social/@mxbck/110532139146271926
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Loqi [preview] [Max Böck] After learning about view transitions on #cssday I wanted to try them on my site, and wow - 5 lines of code already gets me this:also works in dark (and rainbow) mode! [video]
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[tantek] Does anyone POSSE questions (or answers) to Stack Overflow?
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[tantek] aaronpk, I found this reply from you on Stack Overflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59911194/how-to-calculate-pckes-code-verifier/59913241#59913241
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[tantek] did you post that answer on your site as well? (either at the time or later?)
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aaronpk whoa, i don't even remember posting that
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[tantek] I mean, is this you? https://stackoverflow.com/users/712641/aaronpk
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[tantek] it claims you've posted 1 question and 12 answers
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aaronpk jan 2020, the before times
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[tantek] curious if you'll PESOS or backfill those
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[tantek] to your site
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gRegor !tell [Joe_Crawford] I know you've posted on Stack Overflow before, do you ever post those on your own site too?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] sharing this in dev because the higher-level topic (APIs, dev protests / business models vs service business models) is more #indieweb-dev related: https://reddark.untone.uk/ — what are people's thoughts on this? Is this a distinct type of protest phenomenon worth documenting that's not quite a silo-quit?
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[tantek] another example would be, a mass "protest" of taking social media accounts "private" for similar reasons
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[tantek] I've been considering at least taking my Twitter account private (again), for similar reasons, and because the use-case which made me make it "public" again is pretty much gone (posting about a conference with hashtags for that conference)
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[tantek] I wish Twitter private accounts had a way of "allow-listing" folks proactively
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[jacky] that would be interesting but I can't imagine it'd have the impact people would think it has _if_ they haven't already been included in those insular communities
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[jacky] ^ that's the follow up to that statement, lol
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[jacky] if that was a thing, I could imagine that would wreck engagement
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[tantek] like if I had a private account, and I wanted to reply to a *public* tweet but wanted the author of that tweet to be able to see my reply, I'd like to "allow list" them to see my tweets without them having to request to follow me (or having to follow me at all)
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[tantek] more like the Dopplr model of granting permissions to others to view your trips
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gRegor What is Twitter Circle?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Twitter Circle" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Twitter Circle is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor No personal experience, but is https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-circle kind of what you mean?
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gRegor Hm, can only have one "circle" and 150 people in it
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[jacky] dunbar strikes again
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capjamesg [jacky]++
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Loqi [jacky] has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (58 in all channels)
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capjamesg :D
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[snarfed] personal web sites have done this to protest bad laws before, right? eg FOSTA/SESTA, others?
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[snarfed] [tantek] I've POSSEd a few questions to stack overflow and its sites, eg https://snarfed.org/is-email-deliverability-impossible-with-a-name-email-address, along with a bit of manual backfeed
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gRegor what is temporary shutdown
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Loqi The temporary shutdown of a website is a means to express support for a cause by closing one's website for a limited time (typically a day) and displaying a campaign message instead - a form of one day banner activism https://indieweb.org/temporary_shutdown
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[tantek] Indeed, perhaps that's the page to expand to include this Silo Example
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[tantek] [snarfed]++ for a real world IndieWeb example!
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Loqi [snarfed] has 97 karma in this channel over the last year (154 in all channels)
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[tantek] let's see how many wiki pages I have to update now 😂
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gRegor !meme the limit does not exist
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/5RLVjyAh.jpg
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gRegor hah, not quite, but it works
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[snarfed] also a couple of PESOSed answer examples: https://snarfed.org/app-engine-global-transactions , https://snarfed.org/how-many-app-engine-background-threads-can-run-in-parallel
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