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capjamesg [snarfed] Re: > Only the ones you explicitly trigger with a webmention. Bridgy Fed doesn't automatically create posts in the fediverse based on your site's Atom feed, HTML, or anything else. It only create posts in the fediverse on an opt in basis, per post, via webmention.
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capjamesg Does Bridgy Fed publish the whole e-content or will it publish a summary?
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capjamesg My use case is I want a message to appear on Mastodon, etc. when I publish a new blog post.
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[KevinMarks] Jamstack << https://www.spicyweb.dev/farewell-jamstack/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.spicyweb.dev/farewell-jamstack/" to the "See Also" section of /Jamstack https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=88821&oldid=74764
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capjamesg !pin13 https://jamesg.blog/cafe.html
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Kaja https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjamesg.blog%2Fcafe.html
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Loqi [preview] Lowdown Coffee is a speciality coffee shop in the heart of Edinburgh, Scotland. https://jamesg.blog/assets/lowdown_coffee.png
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Loqi [preview] Lowdown Coffee is a speciality coffee shop in the heart of Edinburgh, Scotland. https://jamesg.blog/assets/lowdown_coffee.png
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sknebel not an h-card?
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capjamesg Updated.
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c​apjamesg https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjamesg.blog%2F/coffee/maps/edinburgh/lowdown-coffee/
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[KevinMarks] https://unmung2.appspot.com/indiecard?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjamesg.blog%2Fcafe.html Summary is the same as content
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Loqi [preview] Lowdown Coffee is a speciality coffee shop in the heart of Edinburgh, Scotland. https://jamesg.blog/assets/lowdown_coffee.png
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sknebel should maybe be p-note instead?
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sknebel (or I guess e-note)
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[snarfed] capjamesg: https://fed.brid.gy/docs#which-parts
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capjamesg Only my article title and URL would be posted?
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capjamesg "Mastodon currently shows the full text of notes, but for articles, it only shows their titles and a link to the full article. This is because Mastodon and most other fediverse apps are designed primarily for smaller notes, not longer articles."
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[snarfed] right, Mastodon will only show title and link
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[snarfed] (BF federates the whole thing though)
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[snarfed] other AP implementations may behave differently
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[tantek] I've found it works quite well
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[snarfed] glad to hear it!
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[snarfed] basically the same as Bridgy non-Fed
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gRegor Yeah, I would maybe put Hours, Nearby Transportation, and Food and Drink inside an `e-note`, and no `e-content` since it's an h-card
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gRegor venue page is looking good!
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gRegor + u-url on the Instagram and website links
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c​apjamesg I'll put this in a GitHub repo.
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capjamesg How do I use https://github.com/microformats/microformats-parser in vanilla JS?
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Loqi [preview] [microformats] microformats-parser: A JavaScript microformats parser for the browser and node.js
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capjamesg gRegor [tantek] https://github.com/capjamesg/venue-page-experiments
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Loqi [preview] [capjamesg] venue-page-experiments: Exploration into simple, information-focused venue page design (i.e. cafes, restaurants).
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[KevinMarks] james: like this I assume https://github.com/microformats/microformats-parser/blob/master/demo/demo.js
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capjamesg That "import { mf2 } from "../dist/index.mjs";" folder comes from installing the npm package right?
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[KevinMarks] hm, I assume so. Does it build to a single mjs to import?
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[KevinMarks] looks like this on web
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[KevinMarks] https://microformats.github.io/microformats-parser/
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[KevinMarks] wtf, does that compile to https://microformats.github.io/microformats-parser/demo.b770e148.js ?
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[tantek] would be good to have a "compile" step perhaps that puts it into a single standalone JS for src="" inclusion
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[KevinMarks] indeed
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[tantek] and not depend on NPM anything
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capjamesg That in itself has includes?
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capjamesg > require("./helpers/findChildren"),i=require("./microformats/parse"),s=require("./helpers/nodeMatchers"),a=require("./validator")
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[tantek] yes a single .js that does not require "including" anything else
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[tantek] like I do with cassis.js 🙂
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capjamesg That's what I hoped we had already!
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[tantek] like the "how to use" should be <script src="microformatsparser.js" /> not just "npm install ..." etc.
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capjamesg ++
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[aciccarello] I think the browser usage needs better documentation https://github.com/microformats/microformats-parser/issues/220
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Loqi [preview] [danny0838] #220 How to run with a browser?
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gRegor capjamesg, not sure I understand the use case for the webmention query endpoint. Is this for both the component and query endpoint running on the same site? Or you want to be able to query another person's site for webmentions?
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capjamesg webmention.io advertises endpoints for retrieving mentions, used by webmention.js for example to display comments.
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capjamesg But that is a webmention.io specific detail.
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[snarfed] from #indieweb, capjamesg, the mf2 of the page you're on
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[snarfed] https://indieweb.org/comments#How_to_markup discusses how displayed webmentions (and responses from other sources) can/should be marked up with mf2, for consuming use cases like yours
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capjamesg Oooh!
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[KevinMarks] A rel=alternate for jf2 would make sense (and vice versa from the jf2)
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gRegor does webmention.io have HTML versions of the incoming webmentions?
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gRegor what is jf2
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Loqi jf2 is a W3C Note and a JSON Post Serialization Format of microformats2 for that is optimized for h-entry consuming code, as compared to the standard microformats JSON representation https://indieweb.org/jf2
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gRegor https://jf2.spec.indieweb.org/#jf2feed_discovery
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trwnh Question: would it be theoretically possible to make Webmention work with content negotiation?
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sknebel what would that mean?
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trwnh like, say your `source` requires a certain HTTP header to fetch properly