Loqi[preview] [steve-bate] activitypub-testsuite: Server-independent, full-automated test suite primary focused on ActivityPub server compliance testing.
[tantek][snarfed] the interesting distinction between silos/POSSE and mastodon/fedi options is that there's a lot more confidence in depending on open standards for the various masto/fedi options IMO
[tantek]whereas short term challenges in figuring out how to make something work "at all" is more of an immediate / known "problem" rather than a lack of "confidence"
Loqi[preview] [Ryan Barrett] Having spent a fair amount of time developing for all of them, my experience has been that most proprietary social network (“silo”) APIs are on the easy/low effort end of the spectrum, followed closely by the Bluesky API, webmention + microformat...
[snarfed]both sides have problems. my experience has definitely been that building for the fediverse and similar protocols is very different than silos, but so far _not_ that it's easier. just different
[tantek]that's a good point, even with masto/fedi, since there's plenty un/underspecified, every new implementation is going to be a bit of a testing/guessing game
[snarfed]oversimplification would be that silo APIs are significantly easier to get working, fediverse and other protocols have the _potential_ to be easier to maintain. I haven't seen that yet, but maybe it'll turn out to be true over time
vikanezrimaya in relation to keybase, I remember my reddit proof breaking as soon as the snoosite shut down the API
[jacky] well lol how revived? https://test.activitypub.dev/
[snarfed] ah there's more discussion in #fediverse-devs:http://matrix.org