#dev 2023-09-15

2023-09-15 UTC
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omz13 capjamesg guess I need to read through the meeting notes, but like angelo said it is coming across as horse before cart
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omz13 but that could just be the phrasing
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omz13 plus AS2 and AP have, at the moment, so much momentum
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omz13 interoperability will tend towards whatever is easier for the big players to appear to meet their obligations vis-à-vis applicable EU directives
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c​apjamesg Yeah I should have reversed the order; my bad.
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c​apjamesg I’ll clarify that in a statement in the meeting.
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[Murray] Quick technical question about This Week in Indieweb: is there an RSS/Atom feed or is it purely MF2? If there is, does it truncate the content at all? Trying to work out if I have a bug in my feed reader or not and couldn't seem to find it by viewing source
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[tantek] thanks [snarfed]! Yes please add that to the table 😂
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c​apjamesg Is there any interest in continuing work on Microsub toward a standard?
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[KevinMarks] A microsub/mastodon api bridge could be interesting
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sknebel my impression is that generally "more work with microsub" would have to come before "toward a standard"
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c​apjamesg sknebel What work would you like to see?
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c​apjamesg (I agree fully.)
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sknebel tbh not up to speed what the main points were (stopped using microsub-based things and didnt really follow up), but in general I think more different things using it and finding edge cases and gaps would be needed. and of course the question if anything "toward a standard" past "we have a living spec on github" is even needed
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[snarfed] afaict the main difference with a real standards body vs github-only living spec is more and clearer governance and process. another difference is the authority and weight that the standards body gives to it
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[snarfed] (actual standards people here probably have more thoughts)
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c​apjamesg [snarfed] Any thoughts on Johannes' last email?
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[snarfed] not really. I don't know the best ways to do standards body process. lots of other people here have more experience and opinions there
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gRegor [Murray], TWII has both h-feed and RSS https://indieweb.org/this-week-in-the-indieweb
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aaronpk oh hey who added rel=webmention here? https://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml
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sknebel aaronpk: https://github.com/w3c/webmention/issues/29
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Loqi [preview] [dret] #29 Register "webmention" with IANA
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aaronpk wow i have no memory of that 🙈
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[KevinMarks] looks like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-rfc5988bis-08 expired too
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[KevinMarks] oh hang on https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8288
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aaronpk in related news, anyone want to submit rel=me? https://github.com/w3c/activitypub/issues/310#issuecomment-1721866484
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Loqi [preview] [gobengo] @snarfed @RangerMauve I tried to figure out what `rel=me` would mean, but it is hard, because it is not a registered link relation. Can you link me to the relevant specification and/or community that would be appropriate to manage a registration at h...
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aaronpk give me a thumbs up if you like my double double wordplay in my reply to that
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[KevinMarks] Did bengo have a stroke, or is he being a roll on purpose this week?
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[snarfed] maybe just an honest mistake
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[capjamesg] Can I submit it aaronpk?
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[capjamesg] How do I do that?
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[capjamesg] Oh I see now.
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[capjamesg] I'll do it now.
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[capjamesg] Done!
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[capjamesg] aaronpk https://github.com/protocol-registries/link-relations/issues/61
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Loqi [preview] [capjamesg] #61 Registration Request: me
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[capjamesg] What other ones can I do?
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[capjamesg] `micropub`? `indieauth-metadata`?
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[capjamesg] Should we submit `rel=me` to the WHATWG HTML living standard too?
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[capjamesg] https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html
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sknebel [capjamesg]: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html#concept-rel-extensions
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[capjamesg] Oooh, nice!
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[KevinMarks] Both w3c and whatwg already link to microformats
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