#[jacky]q: I'm thinking about my micropub media endpoint and its ability to do referencial lookups (namely in what content it's been used). doing this _without_ the two endpoints being joined makes this pretty tricky
rhiaro joined the channel
#[jacky]the thing is, it's not like I can throw Webmention endpoints on it in hopes of it being referenced (because IIRC, there isn't any Webmention link resolution that'd also include non-links)
#[jacky](like if I sent a photo reply, I don't currently expect the recipient to either send that Webmention)
#[jacky]but I _guess_ it'd make sense for _my client_ that's posting to send that Webmention?
[aciccarello] and [schmarty] joined the channel
#[schmarty]jacky: if you're looking for references to your media files from the greater web (or even just your own site(s)), it might be a job for refbacks?
#[jacky]tbh I'm _tempted_ to see if there's a way to make that into a webmention (but I'd imagine that'd require a sever-level integration)
tbbrown joined the channel
#[schmarty]as long as referer headers still work, i'm imagining you'd pull it out of your server logs on the media server. webmention `target` is whatever file is being `GET`, `source` is whatever is in the `referer` header. from there, process it like a webmention _but_ in addition to accepting links to the media, also look in `img[src]` and the dozen or more other ways that media can be loaded in HTML lol.
CRISPR joined the channel
#[jacky]🤔 now you mentioning that re: looking at `img[src]`, I could do some sort of DNT-respecting tracker there
fluffy joined the channel
#ZegnatIt would not surprise me if there are a couple of wm endpoints that already support img[src]. Simply because they are not doing HTML parsing and opt for the faster/simpler text matching ;)
#[snarfed]from the ActivityPub matrix chat just now: "Also people haven't realized that there should only be one programming language used in the Fediverse." 🤣 🍿
#[manton]@GWG I guess that is similar to what I do on http://Micro.blog because a single account can have multiple blogs. Not exactly the same thing, but similar. To be honest, I don’t handle it perfectly… When an IndieAuth request hits, if the domain name doesn’t match the current default blog it gets a little confused, but that’s fixable.
#GWG[manton]: That's why I asked. I thought you might have given it some thoughts about how you approached it. I'm trying to tweak my implementation to be more robust.
#[manton]WordPress probably has other ramifications that I’m not thinking of. Off the top of my head, feels like it should just be cool with whoever the currently signed-in user is.
#[manton]Curious what you come up with or if you hit problems.
#GWG[manton]: The scenario is that I'm using my external IndieAuth endpoint to sign into a multi-user service
#GWGIn my case, there's our web sign in code, where you can log into one WordPress site using the endpoint attached to another.
#GWGSo, I have to map the WordPress blog user on one site, who has a unique URL, to the user in the other multi-user wordpress site they are logging into
#GWGI'm doing that by having the user set the URL in the account on the site they want to log into.
#Loqi[preview] [Emelia 👸🏻] Have just opened a pull request to enable OAuth 2.0 refresh tokens for Mastodon, which is a first step towards enabling expiration of access tokens, to increase security to best practices.https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/27948#Mastodon #Mast...
#[tantek]I'm starting to really miss revision histories on everything that lacks them. E.g. a Calendar like gCal. I'd love to have a "Recent Changes" like page there that shows a stream of all edits to events, event creations & deletions etc., each with a clickable UI to undo or edit further
#[tantek]also, searchable Recent Changes, so e.g. when you see that an event was deleted, you can go see it and restore it if you wish
#[tantek]from an IndieWeb perspective, I think once you have interacted with an event (e.g. from somewhere else), you get a soft-copy so even if the original is deleted, your soft-copy remains along with your interactions
win0err joined the channel
#[tantek]do we have an IndieWeb equivalent of /Clubhouse ? like does anyone use some WebRTC OSS to host the equivalent of a Clubhouse room or Twitter Space on their site?
#LoqiMumble is open-source voice chat software, with clients available for both desktop and mobile, as well as web browsers https://indieweb.org/Mumble
#[schmarty]^^ like sknebel mentioned. it's been used for some HWCs in the past, before zoom became more the default.
#sknebelthe web frontend wasnt working all that well though, but there might be better ones today
#LoqiClubhouse is a social network silo for momentary audio only IRC-style rooms/channels; on the IndieWeb some folks use Mumble for similar functionality on their personal sites https://indieweb.org/Clubhouse
#[aciccarello]That was strange. Lost a proceeding "+" symbol on a reply posted via quill so "+1" turned into "1". Need to figure out if that was an issue with my micropub endpoint or just a form encoding quirk.
#[tantek]that could definitely be a form encoding related bug since if the value is being passed as a query string parameter, a literal '+' would be turned into a space ' ' which may get stripped by your server
tbbrown joined the channel
#[tantek]did it get turned into "1" or " 1" (with a leading space) ?
#[tantek]if that space is showing up then it means the value was not escaped for URL encoding
gxt joined the channel
#[snarfed][tantek] "soft copy" of an event you interact with sounds like a special case of archiving everything you interact with in general (eg reply contexts), maybe everything you link to, etc, right?
#[snarfed]I don't know the exact right point to land on the generalizing spectrum there, but still
lifeofpablo joined the channel
#[aciccarello]Ah, you're right about the encoding. Was able to look at the server logs and it did get a preceding space.
#Loqi[tantek] has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (99 in all channels)
#[aciccarello]Good news is that my mastodon metaformats parsing code seems to be working.
#[aciccarello]When I was trying to figure out how to display the author in link previews I started thinking I could put the @user@domain.tld as a nickname on an h-card but so far only display whatever they put for their display name.