#dev 2024-01-26
2024-01-26 UTC
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[campegg] Thanks, [snarfed] — much appreciated!
# [campegg] @snarfed++
# [campegg] [snarfed] please let me know if there’s anything I can do to help with testing or anything
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[tantek] !tell [snarfed] I started writing up a Troubleshooting section for Bridgy Fed based on my recent experiences, with some of the problems I encountered, steps I took to debug/resolve some of those problems, and general suggestions. Please take a look to check for accuracy/comprehensibility: https://indieweb.org/Bridgy_Fed#Troubleshooting . Of course if you find any of this useful for Bridgy Fed docs on the site, please feel free to reuse as
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# Soni we feel like we should setup a bot account instead of using the tag rss feeds
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# Soni or follow the tags :p
# Soni the bot account is nice because it can be blocked or it can follow specific users or whatever but for the most part it's just a nicer way to get to the tag contents instead of having to use rss
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# [campegg]1 [snarfed] it looks like it's working (the @cam@campegg.com profile on Mastodon has updated from my previous attempts at implementing AP, and follows seem to work). Next step: posting!
# [campegg]1 Thank you [snarfed]++
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[KevinMarks] This reminds me of James's memex components https://mastodon.design/@DavidDarnes/111823327112994865
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# [snarfed] hey 0x3b0b I'm debugging a BF incompatibility with your site. looks like you're running microblog.pub, which uses your bare home page `https://bw3.dev` as your AP actor id, is that right?
# [snarfed] (https://docs.microblog.pub/user_guide.html#activitypub has a lot of info but doesn't mention this specifically)
# [campegg]1 [snarfed] I run into an error when I try to unfollow someone on BF:
# [campegg]1 > Unknown error retrieving https://campegg.com//: 404 => Net::HTTPNotFound for https://campegg.com// -- unhandled response
# [campegg]1 When I view source the unfollow form, I see this:
# [campegg]1 Looks like an extra `/` has made it in there somehow.
# [campegg]1 > <input type="hidden" name="me" value="https://campegg.com//">
# [campegg]1 Honestly, I should be apologizing for trying to push an edge case! Also, would you prefer me to open these as issues on Github? I'm not entirely sure what the proper etiquette for this kind of thing is.
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[0x3b0b] [snarfed]: Correct, that's what I'm using. From there it gets...uh...interesting. And before going further, I should mention my installation is customized, both with changes to the software itself and with redirects in my reverse proxy, some of which specifically concern BF, in ways that might lead to confusion. As of yesterday I'm also #nobridge, but I can remove that for now if it will help with what you're doing.
# [snarfed] your AP actor id being `https://bw3.dev`, is that something you did yourself? or is that how microblog.pub works by default?
# [snarfed] [tantek] if you ever bump into anyone admining mozilla.social who's interested in fixing or debugging https://github.com/elk-zone/elk/issues/2463 , I'd love to talk, and help!
# [snarfed] (I submitted it on https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7470063/mozilla-social-feedback-form a while back)
# [0x3b0b] I may need to make sure whether I understand the term actor ID correctly. The bare domain is my _profile_, and according to my webfinger response it is also an alias, and I'm _pretty_ sure that is not something I modified. I am "@0x3b0b@bw3.dev" as far as most of the rest of the Fediverse sees me.
# [0x3b0b] One of the first things I remember "fixing" was redirecting https://bw3.dev/@0x3b0b to the bare domain because something, somewhere, and I can't remember what, was assuming that was the URL to my profile rather than looking it up, and it was originally a 404...
# [0x3b0b] Gotcha. Yes, that much of it is standard. I was monkeying around yesterday (with redirects, at the time) to try to make it so that if something (such as BF's upgrade checker) tried to look for @bw3.dev@bw3.dev, in the more widespread indieweb-on-the-fediverse convention, that would either give back the correct handle or possibly tell them that was an alias, but then I got distra--is that a squirrel?
# [campegg]1 [snarfed] …and one more form me (sorry!): the federated versions of my posts are only showing up with the date (which I'm guessing is from the `p-name` microformat on my posts) and the http://fed.brid.gy link—see https://mastodon.social/@cam@campegg.com/111824575649474051. Is this because I've messed up the microformats on the original post (https://campegg.com/2024/01/26/on-one-hand.html) somehow? Does BF need it structured differentl
# [campegg]1 It seems OK when I validate it on http://indiewebify.me
# [0x3b0b] Whether I would have set my username as the domain also - or possibly tried to do one of the other things that's come up, like an underscore or a splat - if I had been more up-to-date on Indieweb conventions in either August 2021 or December 2022, is a question I think about sometimes and don't really have an answer for
# [0x3b0b] But I am definitely interested in helping BF cope with mbp, partly because the only reasons I can think of for someone to try to BF it on the Web/AP pair are ones I don't approve of, and partly because it'd be nice for it to be supported when AT-Proto and nostr are in the mix, even if I currently don't want anything bridging me to either of those.
# [snarfed] [campegg] yeah sounds like your posts are articles, not notes? that's how Mastodon and many (but not all) other fediverse microblogging servers render them. https://fed.brid.gy/docs#web-which-parts
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# [campegg]1 [snarfed] OK, I think I see. So if I take the `p-name` off my posts, they’ll be treated as notes rather than articles?
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# [campegg]1 Perfect—thanks!
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# [campegg]1 Works perfectly, thanks for all your help, [snarfed]!