#dev 2024-01-31

2024-01-31 UTC
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[KevinMarks] [timothy_chambe] WebSub is the one that notifies feed readers when a feed changes
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jacky *sigh* it's either I hack on something like gitea/forgejo for my own use or I finally try to learn a bit of Go to do some rough draft of a PR for IndieAuth support in forgejo
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jacky they seem like they'd be more likely to take it on (but from just a cursory glance)
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sknebel https://samr1.github.io/FitTrackee/en/index.html for the strava fans - seems there is an importer for strava data too
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[tantek] worth adding to /Strava ?
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[tantek] is Jeremy Keith really the only one that has added automatic (OS prefs driven) dark mode support to their site? https://indieweb.org/dark_mode#IndieWeb_Examples
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GWG [tantek]: I believe I did
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[tantek] indeed looks good from here! add yourself to the IndieWeb Examples at the link above! Do you remember when you added support? did you blog about it?
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GWG GitHub will say
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p​fotenhauer I use https://picocss.com in my recent projects. It supports an OS-dependent darkmode and is relatively easy to customise to your own needs.
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[aciccarello] I have it on mine. I'll check the git history before adding it.
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[tantek] nice!
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[KevinMarks] A lot of the classless css frameworks support dark mode.
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[Al_Abut] Mine has it too. I mean it was dark mode only for ages and I still think that’s the easy answer that most people skip
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jacky I've been looking at (randomly) web-based SVG editors and curious if a Web-based form of Instagram's editor (or something like that) has been mused on
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jacky it wouldn't need to be a super advanced one but it seems like things like Web components and SVGs could give a good start to making parts of it more "IndieWeb"
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jacky thought this is the same land of "custom emojis" and introduces a new place of dependency resolution (who hosts the SVGs? is it okay to duplicate?)
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[snarfed] paging [KevinMarks] and https://svgur.com/
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[KevinMarks] There's also https://svgomg.net/
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[KevinMarks] With http://svgshare.com I do hash the SVGs so you can find duplicates but there's no real attribution
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[KevinMarks] https://svgshare.com/dweb
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[KevinMarks] Also several of the external links there are dead
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[Al_Abut] svgomg is really useful - it crushed down the graphics I use in my work portfolio so they can pop up in the header really quickly, even on mobile
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[Al_Abut] I’d love to use svg more in that way as background decoration but creating that stuff manually sucks. Plus some of the programmatic stuff is more creative and can be randomized. Does anyone play with Processing-style generators that they recommend?
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gRegor TIL Gmail ignores [bracketed text] in subjects when grouping by thread. So if you get "foo" then "[TEST] foo" it shows up as one thread with subject "foo".
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gRegor Thought we had a bug until I went into individual messages to view the headers
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[Al_Abut] Whoa, weird. I wonder what it’s intended purpose is? Maybe for tagging messages for search or sorting into filters, like adding a plus sign to the end of an address.
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sknebel mailing lists
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sknebel only doing it by subjects is a bit surprising, but it seems quite possible the actual message IDs dont make it through mailing list reliably
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[snarfed] yeah Gmail has famously threaded primarily by subject, and not message ID, forever 🤷
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jacky guessing that's a "opt for people not machines" moment
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jacky random: h-app is more of a microformats thing in the same way rep h-card is, no?
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jacky like an algorithm for discerning some info?
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gRegor Not sure I follow, all microformats are for parsing out (discerning) information
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jacky double checks something
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jacky okay so https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card has some of the bones for an algorithm (I'm defining algorithm here as one of these - https://docs.rs/indieweb/latest/indieweb/algorithms/index.html, link-rel being one)
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jacky but the more I think about, a h-app is no different from a h-entry in terms of discovery
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jacky but I guess I'm curious about the 'smallest' profile (and in turn, if that's something that mirrors a rep h-card)
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gRegor https://microformats.org/wiki/representative-h-card-parsing is probably what you're looking for
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gRegor But h-app seems a lot simpler, I don't really think of it as an algorithm. Fetch the h-app and use the name/photo.
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jacky that's where I'm coming to now too
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jacky I'm going to use that (a small profile) in the module linked (as the one for that library)
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jacky ty!
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jacky just eager to get sele out and done lol
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jacky it kinda sucks b/c it, by itself, might not be useful until ticketauth is done
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jacky handwaves bad thoughts
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gRegor what is sele
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Loqi Sele is a IndieAuth provider (client and server) by Jacky Alciné https://indieweb.org/Sele
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gRegor What parts of ticketauth do you support so far?
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gRegor *Ticketing that is
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gRegor old names die hard
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jacky none! lol that's the bigger task for feb, hashing that out and then implementing it for my site
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[snarfed] "software is never done, only abandoned" 🤷
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jacky who said that? Joel?
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jacky Or Atwood? lol
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[snarfed] no one, maybe me? 🤷 based on Picasso's "art is never finished, only abandoned"
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[snarfed] probably apocryphal, before Picasso, https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/03/01/abandon/
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jacky ahhh gotcha
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[0x3b0b] [snarfed]: 192.241.152.75 isn't some component of the Bridgy world, by chance, is it? ...though unfortunately I'm pretty sure it's going to turn out to be chirp.social.
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[snarfed] 0x3b0b not sure! my stuff runs on Google Cloud, so we'd need to look at its IP blocks
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[0x3b0b] Evidence suggests this is DigitalOcean
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[snarfed] check User-Agent? my stuff generally sends a meaningful one
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[snarfed] ok
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[0x3b0b] And it says it's node-fetch/1.0 (+https://github.com/bitinn/node-fetch); I'll look for that in the ap-groups project
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Loqi [preview] [node-fetch] node-fetch: A light-weight module that brings the Fetch API to Node.js
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capjamesg[d] [snarfed] Or, wait, JSON-LD I think. I don't know. It's not HTML.
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[snarfed] huh it does
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[snarfed] it was HTML a few min ago
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[snarfed] and still is on my phone
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[snarfed] looks like https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/issues/580
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Loqi [preview] [uk3] #580 WordPress sometimes returns JSON to a Webbrowser instead of the HTML page.
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