#dev 2024-02-05

2024-02-05 UTC
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[tantek] no worries! feel free to edit!
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[KevinMarks] Dan Hon has some ActivityPub ideas. They don't quite add up https://newsletter.danhon.com/archive/s17e07-the-great-social-network-heist/
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] any idea why https://mention.tech/ is erroring out (red X) on sending one of my webmentions but not the other?
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[tantek] oh weird I refreshed and now it shows a sent '202'
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[KevinMarks] It may show red while pending, I need to review it. It runs a series of async callbacks to process a mention
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[tantek] even stranger now I'm seeing an entry with BOTH a red X and a 202
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[tantek] "mentioned http://fed.brid.gy/ ❌ 45 seconds ago mention sent '202'"
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[tantek] and once again moment later it switched to: "mentioned http://fed.brid.gy/ ✅ 4 seconds ago mention sent '202'"
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[20_s_Net] So I all honesty I have started to use Chat GPT to help me code my website but I added a hidden access code box and now it's all the pages rather than just one
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[20_s_Net] Don't worry I figured it out
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capjamesg Yay!
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Loqi yay!
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[tantek] Why does Loqi have a tail __?
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sknebel because it reconnected a few times
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capjamesg This is pretty neat: https://drab.robino.dev/docs/editor/
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jacky for refresh tokens versus token expiry, I'm starting to understand them as "if a token has an expiry, allow it to refresh itself. if no refresh is available, then a new token must be requested" but then there's also the case where getting a new refresh token might enable an expired token to be replaced with a new one that has the _same_ options (probably shorter expiry)
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gRegor Yeah, my implementation generates a new access token and updates it in place, so it still has the same scope.
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gRegor The expiry of the new token is the default length, which is 14 days in my plugin. Plugin also allows the site owner to change that default to whatever makes sense.
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jacky Hmm making it the default length feels like a good idea to copy
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[KevinMarks] ouch https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/fonts.googleapis.com
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[tantek] too big to fail
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[aciccarello] Another reason not to let google host fonts on top of the privacy and performance reasons.
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[tantek] does anyone even use Google Fonts on their personal site?
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bacardi55[m] I guess less here than on most websites ^^
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[tantek] I don't see it bc NOSCRIPT blocks it automatically for me.
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bacardi55[m] Pihole top :)
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bacardi55[m] Too*
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capjamesg Oof.
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bacardi55[m] I can imagine lots of people calling their frontend / UI team telling them their website isn't pixel perfect anymore and they need to fix it :D
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[KevinMarks] I likely have used them at some point
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[tantek] if you can track down a specific site then we have enough reason to create a page for it
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[tantek] do we have a tutorial on how to how to how your own web fonts?
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[tantek] taking it to #indieweb-meta
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gRegor [tantek], I have a bluesky invite if you need one
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gRegor My first Bridgy Publish to Bluesky worked, woo!
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[snarfed] awesome!
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gRegor Links in the post didn't work but I see that's still todo
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[tantek] What is bluesky
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Loqi 🦋 Bluesky is a public-benefit LLC and project run by Jay Graber and initially proposed by Jack Dorsey, former Twitter CEO, to “develop an open and decentralized standard for social media” and has Twitter-like features https://indieweb.org/Bluesky
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[snarfed] re links, yup. may be tricky. does anyone know of a good example of converting markup-based formatting (eg HTML) to plain text with index-based spans (eg characters 5-12 are a link to this URL) like in ActivityStreams?
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[snarfed] I'm kind of dreading it
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[tantek] gRegor can you add your BridgyPublish POSSE example to your entry? https://indieweb.org/Bluesky#gRegor_Morrill and maybe note the differences (e.g. "Links in the post didn't work")
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[tantek] ooof [snarfed] like an HTML disassembler
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[tantek] now you have me thinking about the inverse of auto-linking/embedding/markup and wondering about roundtrip fidelity
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[tantek] could be possible for a strict subset of HTML
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[aciccarello] I used to use Google Fonts. I originally had some Material Design styles and initially had pointed to the CDN. Eventually I copied the font files into my project. But last year I switched to using a native font stack.
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[snarfed] yeah round trip fidelity is a nice stretch goal, but I'll settle with any reasonable basic logic for "disassembling" HTML into text plus indexed spans
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[snarfed] backfeed << https://graysky.app/blog/2024-02-05-adding-blog-comments
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Loqi ok, I added "https://graysky.app/blog/2024-02-05-adding-blog-comments" to the "See Also" section of /backfeed https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92895&oldid=92098
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[aciccarello] I just remembered that Google fonts was part of that legal case in the EU about GDPR
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[snarfed] which inspired a bunch of GDPR trolls 😕 https://snarfed.org/2023-01-07_gdpr-troll-shakedown-from-mustafa-sisic-of-europe-data-protection
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[aciccarello] Ah yes. 🤦
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[tantek] aciccarello do you use web fonts on your site? if so can you add it/yourself to https://indieweb.org/web_fonts#IndieWeb_Examples ?
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[aciccarello] I don't load any web fonts anymore