#dev 2024-03-15
2024-03-15 UTC
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iammnchrm I'm working on my personal website (yaaay), and I've read some comparisons between hosting on GitHub pages vs CloudFlare pages, but as a complete noob, I've got a bit lost in the details, can you guys explain like I'm 5?
# iammnchrm things I'm looking for are, Free (for now, will pay if I keep doing it long enough) and custom domain (would really like to, but it's optional)
# iammnchrm if it matters, I'm using Quartz SSG with my Obsidian vault
# iammnchrm 🤣
# iammnchrm yeah, I'm [older than i look] years old, and i look like I'm 25
# [Tilley] GithubPages++
# [Tilley] You can have a custom domain with github pages too. Some peeps don't realize that
# iammnchrm don't know if it's asking too much, but is there such a thing as a free custom domain?
# redblobgames I think the #1 reason I would pick one or the other is if I already use that service. I'm using GitHub so I use GitHub Pages. I'm not currently using Cloudflare so I'm not using Cloudflare Pages. This may be a silly reason but that's how I would pick between the two (which otherwise seem similar)
# redblobgames I don't think there are free top level domains like yourname.com but you can find free sublevel domains, like yourname.somebodyelse.com
# [Tilley] If you don't set up a custom domain with GH pages then it gives you <username>.http://github.io
# iammnchrm ok, as a beginner, I'll go with the path of least resistance, and since I'm already active on GitHub, I'll use that
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[KevinMarks] https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site is a good walkthrough
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[aciccarello] There are free top level domains but I'm not sure I can recommend them. I think you have to be very on top of renewing them or you can lose access
# [aciccarello] What are free domain names
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Loqi Free domain names are provided by certain domain name registrars without cost https://indieweb.org/free-domain-names
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aaronpk [dominik]: i forked the picofeed feed parser after they droped support for it and that's what i'm still using now https://packagist.org/packages/p3k/picofeed
# [snarfed] discovered this just now. cool! https://hatsu.cli.rs/
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# [aciccarello] That's cool! I'm glad to see some self hosted options.
# Loqi A bridge is software and or a service that connects (bridges) two (or more) sites (like personal indieweb sites or social media silos or both) by translating (bridging) data between them, typically using indieweb building blocks to do so https://indieweb.org/bridge
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[tantek] bridge << Software Example: https://hatsu.cli.rs/ Hatsu is a blog to ActivityPub bridge that you can self-host. If anyone here starts using it, feel free to create a new [[Hatsu]] page for it with that definition and your IndieWeb Example!
# Loqi ok, I added "Software Example: https://hatsu.cli.rs/ Hatsu is a blog to ActivityPub bridge that you can self-host. If anyone here starts using it, feel free to create a new [[Hatsu]] page for it with that definition and your IndieWeb Example!" to a new "See Also" section of /bridge https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=94052&oldid=78396
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# [campegg] Does anyone use Postgres much? I recently switched my Django install over from SQLite to Postgres because there's some stuff I want to play with, but the main thing I struggle with is copying my data back to my local dev environment… is there an easy (or at least non-complicated) way to grab a copy of the database that keeps indexes (indices?), etc intact?
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# [campegg] Exporting is fine, but annoying and painful; it sounds like logical replication is something I should investigate further
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# [Tilley] Exporting from prod and improving into my local env is how I've handled this. I vastly prefer to have postgres dockerized because I hate setting it up locally. I have a script for importing a DB dump if you'd like
# [campegg] [Tilley] that would be awesome, thanks! I've been meaning to look into Docker for a while, but keep putting it off (and because I don't really know how it works and not understanding how data is stored and where especially freaks me out)
# btrem I've tried to learn Docker a few times. The learning curve is a bit steep for me.
# [Tilley] Here's a script to import a postgres db dump...
# [Tilley] ```DEST="campegg_db.sql"
# [Tilley] echo "Dropping / Recreating local database"
# [Tilley] psql -U campegg -h localhost -p 5432 postgres -c "UPDATE pg_database SET datallowconn = 'false' WHERE datname = 'campegg_db';"
# [Tilley] psql -U campegg -h localhost -p 5432 postgres -c 'drop database campegg_db;'
# [Tilley] psql -U campegg -h localhost -p 5432 postgres -c "create database campegg_db with encoding='UTF-8';"
# [Tilley] sleep 1
# [Tilley] echo "Reloading from $DEST."
# [Tilley] psql -U campegg -h localhost -p 5432 -d campegg_db -f $DEST
# [Tilley] echo "Done."```
# [Tilley] All of my docker examples are from the old day job, but I have a new greenfield Django project I started this week... I could dockerize it and then write up some instructions. Probably not today though
# [campegg] So you use that to import a dump from `pg_dump`, right?
# [campegg] And I'd definitely be interested in reading a write-up whenever you get around to it, thank you!
# [Tilley] Yes, the day job used an Ansible module that ran `pg_dump`
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# btrem I've managed to get some simple Docker things working, but have been unable to replicate a hosting environment. Which was the purpose of learning Docker. :/
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