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[Joe_Crawford] capjamesg looking at cp_snowfort.webp It seems to be 826x506 pixels which I can imagine on a 2x mobile screen will appear slightly more pixely
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capjamesg [Joe_Crawford] Do I need a bigger image?
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[Joe_Crawford] I think it couldn’t hurt. Though since it’s a background you don’t get to use the nice image size choice algorithms available with srcset, at least that I know of.
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[aciccarello] Reposting [Scout]'s question:
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[aciccarello] "i want to set up a site for my mother's birthday party where people can upload photos. like a mini instagram of sorts. and i want to give a level of protection by adding a password so not every person/bot on the internet can a) see my mum's baby pics and b) upload stuff to my site. so that rules out github pages for hosting. i am trying to decide where is a good place to host it. i know netlifly can handle both the password and the
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[aciccarello] dynamic uploads. but if i understand this right, it would mean that the site gets rebuilt every time someone posts a picture. i expect the vast majority of use/uploads to be happening on the birthday party evening. and i about the 15 minute built time limit. am i worried for no reason? because if there are more than 100 uploads that night, i would be surprised. on the other hand, i would very much like to avoid any surprises if possible
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[aciccarello] and know what i am getting myself into...
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[aciccarello] any thoughts/suggestions/ideas?"
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[aciccarello] I'm wondering if you want something long lasting or a page that's only up for a couple months or less.
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[snarfed] letting users upload pictures will be somewhat involved, far beyond github pages
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[snarfed] honestly the easiest place to start might be a shared album on eg Google Photos or iCloud etc
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[snarfed] or maybe the equivalent photo app on a self-hosted cloud service like owncloud or yunohost
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[snarfed] unrelated, [jacky] re https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/03/well-known-avatar/ , I'm trying to understand the benefit of this over a rel=avatar link in webfinger
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Loqi [preview] [Terence Eden’s Blog] .well-known/avatar https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/03/well-known-avatar/ Hot on the heels of a post I wrote 4 years ago, wouldn't it be useful to have a well-known URl for user avatar images? When I sign up to a web service, I don't want to faff arou...
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[snarfed] the only benefit I see is that it saves one HTTP request and then pulling that link out of the returned JSON
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jacky [snarfed]: they're going to say it doesn't need a HTML/XML parser (from that post)
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jacky which _shrugs_ is kinda fair but then you also got a JSON parser if you're doing conneg for webfinger
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[snarfed] just JSON, not HTML/XML
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[snarfed] if the only motivation is to avoid parsing JSON, that seems kinda crazy and unlikely
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[snarfed] I must be missing something
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jacky hence the Accept: image/* path
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jacky I think it could be for _hyper-simple_ tooling (like doing it from a terminal or something that's meant to be "dumb", like linking this directly in the browser)
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[snarfed] maybe, but you'd think he would have said that
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[snarfed] I feel like we're over-speculating
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jacky Oh yeah, I am lol
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[aciccarello] Yeah, the avatars suggestion seems like they want to inline a well-known URL into an img tag.
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jacky best option would be to reply to this post tbh
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jacky [aciccarello]: yup!
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[aciccarello] I did see that they specifically mentioned h-card.
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[aciccarello] [Scout] Do you need to update the website immediately or could you publish the photos after the fact?
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[aciccarello] Something like a Google Form would let you collect photos from friends and publish them later.
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[Scout] [snarfed] i was going to host the photos elsewhere. i was more concerned about the constant re-building of the site every time someone posts a photo. but maybe i am misunderstanding the meaning of built time?
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[Scout] [aciccarello] yes the idea was that everyone could upload photos as the evening progresses and the site would be projected on the wall and also i was gonna print little qr codes for people to scan so they can open the page on their phones. that sort of thing. i don't want to curate a nice album at the end, i wanted it more like when people post on insta from an gig/event. but personalised to one person/family. i have thought of airtable. but
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[Scout] also s3 bucket. because it would be good practice for my personal site too.
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[aciccarello] I wouldn't worry too much about build times. Netlify gives you something like 300 minutes of build times credits and only runs one at a time so that should be fine for an event.
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[snarfed] [Scout] if you really want to build this yourself, ok! but yeah since arbitrary external users are uploading content, it doesn't sound like a good fit for a static site
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[aciccarello] I agree, I'd probably default to a dynamic site to make it easy to control auth and uploads.
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[aciccarello] If you wanted to later, you could archive it to a static site later to reduce hosting costs.
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[Murray] If you use something like Astro, you'd be able to build with server rendering then switch it to static at some point later on, and keep everything else the same 😉
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[tantek] Obligatory wellknown--
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Loqi wellknown has -1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk i'm a big fan of static sites for archiving that kind of thing but yes i would not build it as a static site first
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aaronpk for a specific event, use something with server side code, but find/build something that you know will be easy to flatten to a static site after
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aaronpk because you also don't want the maintenance burden of keeping the dynamic code of the event site online years after the event is over
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[tantek] The "requires a server to parse HTML" is a bs excuse. They're all parsing HTML already to do link previews, unfurling etc
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[tantek] Parse for representative h-card, use the photo properly. Done. No personally website? Fallback to gravatar. Yes it's centralized, however at least it's automattic
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[tantek] Use the photo property*
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aaronpk yeah everyone needs to get over the fear of parsing HTML
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aaronpk the only legitimate argument against parsing html is for embedded devices like esp32 microcontrollers. for those I agree adding an HTML parsing stack is too much overhead
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redblobgames Parsing html makes me angry so I avoid it ;-)
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aaronpk parsing arbitrary HTML for arbitrary structures isn't trivial, but that's often not what is actually being talked about in these kinds of discussions
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[tantek] ^
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[tantek] And often in these kinds of discussions, the potential customers (servers that setup new accounts) are already parsing HTML
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[aciccarello] Yeah, I would expect you need fallbacks in 90% of cases anyway so you'll need to parse something.
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[aciccarello] Also, what about different image sizes?
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[KevinMarks] Don't we have an existing pattern of using the link rel=icon for that?
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[qubyte] Obligatory _parsing headers is hard too!_ (in can you’re thinking of putting that link in a header) ;)
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capjamesg Has anyone done any work with knowledge graphs?
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capjamesg I have been thinking a lot this evening about how LMMs could be used for data retrieval from a document to make a knowledge graph that can then be queried.
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capjamesg *LLMs
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[lcs] Isn’t that RAG?
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[lcs] (Retrieval-Augmented Generation)
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[lcs] My knowledge of it is cursory, but that was my understanding of the concept
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[snarfed] sounds related but a bit different? capjamesg you're thinking of a first LLM pre-processing step that generates a traditional knowledge graph, maybe directly from embeddings, and then later querying that knowledge graph directly?
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[snarfed] maybe => #indieweb-chat
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capjamesg Yes.
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GWG Can someone tell me why someone added the Apache license as a comment to my PR? https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/commit/9a294ace6ea2a80b72f712ca16cda17277ac7157#commitcomment-139927353
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[tantek] GWG looks like a spam test
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[tantek] yeah, spammer: https://github.com/syssi/esphome-jk-bms/issues/471
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Loqi [preview] [BARCOLAIRTHAILAND] #471 Jk BMS home as
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[tantek] I went to their profile and clicked the "Report" link and reported them for spamming an org I'm a part of. We'll see if GitHub does anything
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GWG interesting
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[tantek] I have seen enough nonsense like this on GitHub that I have basically zero patience left for it
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GWG I was just excited someone commented on my IndieAuth PR until I... wasn't
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jacky TIL that GNUnet is making moves
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jacky https://www.gnunet.org/en/news/2023-11-RFC9498.html
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[tantek] only "informational" RFC but still