#dev 2024-03-20

2024-03-20 UTC
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[tantek] ok poll prototype as a plain text note: https://tantek.com/2024/079/t1/are-you-celebrating-spring-equinox
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[tantek] now to see how it federates and if I can POSSE it
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Loqi [preview] [Tantek Çelik] Are you celebrating #spring #equinox [ ] in September for the Southern Hemisphere [ ] 2024-03-21 [ ] 2024-03-20 [ ] 2024-03-20 03:06Z [ ] 2024-03-19 [ ] 2024-03-19 23:06 EDT [ ] 2024-079 [ ] 2024-079 20:06 PDT and optionally, why did you choose whi...
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[tantek] oooh Twitter only allows four choices!
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aaronpk https://emissary.dev/home 👀
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[snarfed] cross-protocol!
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[snarfed] oh this is ben pate's thing!
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[snarfed] https://github.com/benpate/sherlock?tab=readme-ov-file#relentless-metadata-inspector 👀
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[tantek] aaronpk wow that is cool
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[tantek] benpate++ Emissary++
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Loqi Emissary has 1 karma over the last year
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Loqi benpate has 2 karma over the last year
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[snarfed] I'd love to see an example site
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[snarfed] https://emissary.dev/status
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[tantek] that's a lot of functionality to get working without an example site to see it
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[aciccarello] So many features. I wonder how easy it is to build off of.
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[aciccarello] I wonder if that would be a good starting point for a garden tracker.
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[tantek] curious what you would be tracking
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[tantek] temperature (ambient, soil), humidity, sunlight per day, plants, water usage, fruit/vegetable yields, ???
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[tantek] seems the share links from / of IG stories are broken
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[tantek] as in, the link it gives you, when clicked, 404s
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[tantek] Threads polls also allow only 4 choices
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[aciccarello] Mostly thinking the growth of individual plants
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[aciccarello] Honestly having something with activity pub support built in would be nice since I don't want to touch that.
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[aciccarello] But social is not the main feature I'd need.
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[tantek] ^ that last line is a summary of so many products 😂
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[aciccarello] Doesn't every product become a chat app at some point? 😂
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[tantek] yes, or adds DMs
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[Joe_Crawford] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html
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[Joe_Crawford] “Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.”
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[tantek] yes that was the old version. DMs is the new version
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[tantek] Was anyone at Fediforum today? This sounds exciting from a dev perspective https://www.theverge.com/24106231/threads-fediverse-demo-meta-fediforum
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mahboubine Hello everyone
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mahboubine I have the following site: https://structs-and-company.vercel.app/
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mahboubine I am trying to add an indieweb feed to it
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mahboubine but I am not sure where the feed should go and weather I should have multiple feeds
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mahboubine currently I have the 3 latest posts and the starred posts on my homepage.
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mahboubine and I have a list of all the posts on /posts
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mahboubine where should h-feed go exactly?
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[aciccarello] You could do a short h-feed on the latest posts list
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[aciccarello] You can also just do it on the /posts page
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mahboubine [aciccarello]: question 1: wouldn't readers get confused and think those are 2 different feeds
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mahboubine question 2: adding a feed on /posts is indeed the easiest option, but will readers and crawlers be able to find it
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mahboubine considering it's not on the homepage
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[aciccarello] Good question. I could see an application assuming the home page is the only feed but it should still work (assuming you don't post too frequently for polling to catch the last 3 posts.
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[aciccarello] What is feed discovery?
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Loqi feed discovery is a way to, given someone's home page, discover their feed or feeds that they publish https://indieweb.org/feed_discovery
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[aciccarello] According to that page, there could be an algorithm that just checks the home page but the idea seems only partially fleshed out. I'm not sure about different implementations.
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[aciccarello] But if people find your /posts page I think they should be able to follow that path.
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[aciccarello] Honestly, I don't sweat h-feed too much. I usually care more about individual post pages since those are often parsed for responses after I send a webmention.
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mahboubine makes sense
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[snarfed] Ben Pate is demoing Emissary at Fediforum now!
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[snarfed] video should be available later
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[snarfed] just finished. it looks cool, but also confusing, I don't really understand it
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[tantek] uh oh, that's not a good sign [snarfed] if you don't understand it of all people 😂
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[snarfed] kinda understandable, it was a 5 min demo
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aaronpk oh that is tough
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aaronpk hard to make a concise 5 minute demo of something like that!
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[tantek] I beg to differ. See our 2019 Summit keynotes
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[tantek] Also like most IndieWebCamp demos?
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[snarfed] true! there may just be a lot in emissary, and he tried to demo a lot in 5m, maybe too much, so it looked impressive but was maybe too fast
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btrem [aciccarello] I tried to track my garden with my 11ty site. The biggest hurdle was matching update posts and photos with initial posts. I've mostly abandoned the idea. I think it needs a database, or at least database-like features, which are hard to bolt on to a static site generator.
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[aciccarello] I think it could be done with a static site but probably not optimally
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[qubyte] Switching to here since it’s getting more technical… Maybe I am interested in reactji. A set of blessed emoji could be allowed to be fully automated, cutting the need to moderate from the webmention cycle. I don’t even do that for likes yet, but I’m considering it…
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[tantek] indeed! and a subset of reacji work in reply to GH issues, comments etc. via Bridgy Publish
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[qubyte] I see why now. Potential complications are skin tone, compound emoji, etc. I guess keeping it symbolic will help to avoid those. 🤔
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[tantek] indeed, and there's some emoji detection libraries to handle that sort of thing
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aaronpk I happen to know a great one 😇
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[qubyte] Oh no. I’ve stumbled into a rabbit hole.
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[qubyte] Got a link? I feel like gathering inspiration…
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/emoji-detector-php
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Loqi [preview] [aaronpk] emoji-detector-php: This library will find all emoji in an input string and return information about each emoji character.
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[qubyte] Thank you! I’m not using php, but it’s easy to reason about ❤
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mahboubine Trying to setup bridgy fed
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mahboubine I have used all the recommended microformat classes and have an active RSS feed, but bridgy fed is only detecting my name, and profile picture
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mahboubine it couldn't find any posts
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mahboubine here is my website yusuf.fyi
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[tantek] mahboubine have you tested your site / permalinks with http://indiewebify.me?
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mahboubine Yes
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mahboubine everything is in order
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gRegor Have you made a new post since you first followed yusuf.fyi@fed.brid.gy?
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gRegor I see a post today in your RSS feed, just not sure if that was before or after you followed the fed.brid.gy account
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mahboubine gRegor: I've been following that account for months, because I tried to set it up before and gave up
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gRegor oh, hm
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mahboubine maybe I should open an issue
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gRegor Aha, I think I figured it out. Tailwind CSS `h-full` on your permalink causes problems when parsing for h-entry
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gRegor https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyusuf.fyi%2Fposts%2Fsite-overhaul%2F
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gRegor A github issue might be a good idea, or [snarfed] in chat
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gRegor *might cause problems when parsing for h-entry
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mahboubine good catch!
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gRegor There's a discussion about working around some of those Tailwind classes in microformats parsers
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