#dev 2024-05-09

2024-05-09 UTC
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livebay 😭 I tried that pitchfork and it went well, hope it could support multi language bc my site is not written in any latin letters mostly
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pcarrier Anybody using webrtc, by any chance?
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pcarrier [edit] Anybody using webrtc or meaning to, by any chance?
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[tantek] what is WebRTC?
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Loqi WebRTC is a W3C Candidate Recommendation that defines a set of JS APIs for Real-Time Communications (RTC) capabilities, supported by modern browsers, and some video chat sites, sometimes used for remote participation during IndieWebCamps and virtual Homebrew Website Club meetups https://indieweb.org/webrtc
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[tantek] hmm, no IndieWeb Examples there yet
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pcarrier it's pretty hard to get started
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pcarrier trying to remedy that
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pcarrier [edit] trying to remedy that, potentially
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[tantek] nice
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[tantek] on another topic, has anyone looked at adding mf2 e.g. h-entry + author h-card to Bluesky permalinks NOSCRIPT minimal HTML? e.g. this template (search for noscript) https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/blob/55ac287d5e822a24c201d6f756b2d0ab76df242c/bskyweb/templates/post.html#L44
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[tantek] the values of the individual properties/elements inside the NOSCRIPT tags look very well formatted for h-entry, e.g. author (p-name and p-nickname and u-url), p-summary, dt-updated
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[tantek] I figure [KevinMarks] and [snarfed] may have opinions on that
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[KevinMarks] We did this in bsky.link and they do map quite well
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[tantek] is that mapping documented in /Bluesky ?
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[tantek] so we can make sure we use the same mapping across different Bluesky / AT Proto implementations / sites / clients?
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[Joe_Crawford] (Aside [tantek] I talked about your box model hack yesterday during the Pacific HWC. I had used the Acid test 1 as my zoom background)
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[schmarty] just shared in chat but realized it's relevant here. 11th conf on making websites real good is live. shouts out to IndieWeb already. :} https://www.youtube.com/live/iLxJ6PtuF9M
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sandra I'm thinking of setting something up so that many of my blog posts have an associated Fediverse URL (to a particular ActivityPub post) and making it so that when someone enters the URL to my blog post in their Fedi app, they find the ActivityPub post in there.
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sandra So going to https://my-blog-url/xyzzy-post normally you find the normal web page, but if you go there with wget -qO- --header 'Accept: application/json, application/ld+json; profile="https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams"' you instead find some sorta JSON document that sends you to https://my-fedi-url/post-number-1234
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sandra So if someone pastes in, say https://my-blog-url/xyzzy-post, into their AP instance, they would find https://my-fedi-url/post-number-1234 since I've associated those two posts with each other.
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sandra Not sure if this is even possible. I'm on nginx serving static HTML pages. So can nginx dispatch based on these kinds of accept headers? ← I guess that was my question
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[snarfed] for fediverse search, we know rel-alternate at least works: https://fed.brid.gy/docs#web-searchable
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[snarfed] I expect nginx can do conneg, yes
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sandra That rel alternate, if that works (and that's easily testable), that's gonna be the least effort solution on my part so that's awesome, thank you so much ♥︎
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sandra I'll go see if it works right now!
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[tantek] and u-syndication links from your blog post permalink page to copies on Mastodon or elsewhere
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[tantek] hah [Joe_Crawford] that's amazing. I hope it was in the context of fond memories, not any use today 🙂
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[tantek] watching the 11ty conf live video that [schmarty] posted but it's some sort of intermission quiz show
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[schmarty] yep, they're on break
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sandra wget -qO- https://idiomdrottning.org/mpe|grep application/activity+json
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sandra Searching for https://idiomdrottning.org/mpe didn't work on Akkoma
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sandra Time for me to try to read https://pieterheyvaert.com/blog/2019/02/25/nginx-conneg/
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sandra Ewww it doesn't do the conneg, just forwards it (and that, I already do have set up, since Akkoma itself does do that)
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[schmarty] ah, this talk has "IndieWeb Cowboys" in the name
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[tantek] and its about POSSE 😂
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[tantek] spelled out on his slide as P.O.S.S.E. like as in "Notorious P.O.S.S.E."
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[schmarty] 'eyyyy! direct shout-out, pointing folks to the wiki 🎉
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[tantek] this whole talk is pure IndieWeb. amazing
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[schmarty] speaker's demo site at https://showbiz.baby which is a pretty great domain
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[tantek] also can't believe COPE, PESOS, and PESETAS have showed up on a slide 😂
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[schmarty] mf2 wiki is "medium well documented. a bit of a wild west out there" - fair!
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[tantek] 100% true
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[schmarty] ehehehe
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[schmarty] indieauth! micropub! quill! yess!
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gRegor So cool!
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[tantek] aaronpk, MAJOR shoutouts. your ears should be on fire by now 😂
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[tantek] ok, just got name-checked aaronpk
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[schmarty] i like this approach to an oh-no-wall-of-code slide. little boxes show that each part is not so complicated despite there being many steps.
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[tantek] yes, this is a very good approach
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[tantek] "there's another Aaron Parecki service, thank you IndieWeb god" 😂
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aaronpk oh no 🙈
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[tantek] Bridgy++ mention
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[tantek] backfeed++ slide shows an icon of two large 🐖 🐖
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[schmarty] yep this talk pretty much ripped! 👏 🎉
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[tantek] the author is https://henry.codes/
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gRegor It was a banger
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[tantek] HenryDesroches++
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[tantek] of https://henry.codes/
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[tantek] oh oops already shared that. got too excited lol
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[aciccarello] Wow, that's a fancy looking personal site
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pcarrier yup
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pcarrier slightly jealous, but then I imagine the hours 😄
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[Ros] Hey pals, does anyone have a recommendation for a (ideally free) file server? I want to make the first step to get my indie pages up on a sub-domain - while the rest of my site (with my portfolio) remains on a CMS with a server. I only have two pages with text on them so it’s matchstick light, so I just wanted to find a free service to learn how to do this part so I can code the rest while it’s up on the sub-domain. Trying to take the first
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[Ros] tentative steps to actually put something I made on the web.
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[Ros] Any advice? Hopefully it’s only for a few weeks
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[Ros] (maybe I put this in the wrong channel on reflection. Apologies if so. I get confused but I’m trying to follow the protocols)
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capjamesg I like GitHub Pages for hosting static web pages. It's free and has a web interface.
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capjamesg GitHub Pages doesn't scale well if you plan to host videos or massive images, though.
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capjamesg You can host on your own domain, or a GitHub subdomain.
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[Ros] [capjamesg] Sounds perfect for me for this step! It’s only a stepping stone to learn some aspects and keep me moving
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capjamesg See https://docs.github.com/en/pages/quickstart for instructions.
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[Ros] I tried to set my GitHub up to link with my VS Code, with three videos’ help, and failed misrably. I think my neighbours would have heard me cursing.
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capjamesg Before Step 3, drag and drop your HTML files into the GitHub web interface.
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capjamesg Or you can use Git, but Git is harder and most of the time I use drag-and-drop for my website if I have single things to upload.
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[Ros] [capjamesg] You win “Hero of Thursday” award! 🏆
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capjamesg bows.
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capjamesg Let me know if you have any questions.
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