#dev 2024-05-22
2024-05-22 UTC
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reillypascal I saw that https://webmention.io is refusing to load and says it's getting too many requests for the last several hours. Does anyone know if there's something unusual going on there?
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reillypascal Ope, it just came back on, nevermind!
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[Joe_Crawford] What is downtime?
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Loqi 🚧 downtime is the time period or duration while a site, whether indieweb, commons, or silo, is offline and unreachable https://indieweb.org/downtime
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[Joe_Crawford] Aaronpk++ yes back!
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[Joe_Crawford] Brutal outage
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[Joe_Crawford] Anything we can do aaronpk?
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Loqi User experience, often abbreviated as UX, refers to the total experience a user has with a tool, or even an entire company, across all methods of communication and interaction with that tool, including both direct interactions using a tool UI and indirect interactions via other tools such as email, SMS, phone calls, in-person human representatives of the tool or company, etc https://indieweb.org/UX-first
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[tantek] UX << 1997 customer experience first, technology second: https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C7QEgDmvE-W/
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Loqi ok, I added "1997 customer experience first, technology second: https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/C7QEgDmvE-W/" to the "See Also" section of /user-experience https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95408&oldid=92069
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reillypascal aaronpk: my bad, I was having trouble viewing the web client, and I must have forgotten I already asked the question!
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[KevinMarks] AP as a transition tech to AT? https://kyefox.com/activitypub-might-be-a-transitional-technology/
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aaronpk "Don't be surprised if smaller platforms, including those with or adding support for ActivityPub like micro.blog and Ghost, start adding AT protocol support over the next few years the same way Mastodon started with OStatus, then supported both OStatus and ActivityPub, then switched entirely to ActivityPub."
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capjamesg [snarfed] https://granary.io/url?input=jsonfeed&output=rss&url=https://jamesg.blog/pwc/?url=/task/zero-shot-object-detection/latest is returning blank entries 😦
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cophee [snarfed] getting this error when I try to follow people using bridgy:
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cophee Not sure if it's a bug or if I'm using microformats wrong on my site
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cophee I have it tagged as u-url in my h-card on my home page
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cophee Also have some instructions for adding redirects for Cloudflare Pages using Redirect Rules (took some time to figure it out):
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cophee 1. Click on the domain from the Home page (i.e. wingpang.com)
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cophee 2. On the left sidebar, go to Rules > Redirect Rules
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cophee 3. Create two rules (with any name) using the following config
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cophee (Make sure that 1. operator is set to contains and value doesn't use the wildcard and 2. "Preserve query string" is enabled)
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[snarfed] granary docs are at https://granary.readthedocs.io/ . they're missing examples for format conversion, I should add some. in general, you convert from the source format to AS1, and then from AS1 to the destination format
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[snarfed] (https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/482 is another easy todo that would make this a bit easier)
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aaronpk another successful webmention.io login through FedCM! https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/240#issuecomment-2125440327
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aaronpk i contributed a bunch of data to this open source version for a while https://www.wired.com/2010/03/where-20-geomena-launches-api-to-feed-its-open-location-database/
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pcarrier added geolocation to https://www.ident.me/ and it's creepy how precise the location is
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[Joe_Crawford] I don't have any WiFi networks close enough to my apartment with the `_nomap` suffix which supposedly robots.txt's you out of their data. But there is an SSID name that's named "What's the WiFi" which is a great name.
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[Joe_Crawford] Using MacStumbler on the train from San Diego was amazing. So many dings.
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[Joe_Crawford] https://artlung.com/blogosphere-part-1/#trn533