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[Joe_Crawford] Drop in Bluesky embedding of comments https://www.npmjs.com/package/blue-comments … https://bsky.app/profile/aendra.com/post/3kwc7mg633n2o
# jimwins Pretty cool, but I have a hard time squaring "Bluesky couldn't start locking off access" and "bsky.app is hardcoded into my script", but I don't have my head totally wrapped around the Bluesky architecture.
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# [Joe_Crawford] Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. I don't post a lot to BlueSky but from this I may investigate the pieces of pulling comments on linked to posts into my site. I already do this in WordPress.
# [Joe_Crawford] Also, a follow up from FrESH I've written my first MathML, and I have to say that syntax is very specific. https://codepen.io/artlung/pen/vYwojwL
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# [snarfed] jimwins if you want Bluesky comments without the dependency on http://bsky.app etc, feel free to try https://brid.gy/
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# jimwins [snarfed] thanks, not really looking to integrate comments from social networks into my own site, just not sure that I buy that outsourcing comments to Bluesky like the example is really safe from shenanigans. But like I said, I'm relatively uncertain about Bluesky architecture and I know they're just ramping up the actual federated-ness of it all, especially compared to Mastodon/ActivityPub.
# jimwins (Like for all the people that freak out about their Mastodon content being scraped for search and AI training and there's a lot of handling for defederation, authenticated fetch, etc, Bluesky just has "Relays" out there hoovering up all of the content all of the time?)
# jimwins right, you couldn't quite do the same thing as easily with Mastodon/AP although there's hacks like what jwz does to pull them into his wordpress blog (which is not using WP's AP support itself).
# jimwins right, i guess i just don't think of that sort of system as "decentralized" so much as "re-centralized".
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StarrWulfe I operate my blog as if it's a one-man ActivityPub instance actually. Bridgy handles talking to some of the other networks I don't do natively but it can can be all done with plugins and like snarfed says, it's very decentralized.
# StarrWulfe There
# StarrWulfe BTW, still trying to figure out how to get bsky.brid.gy to play nicely with Wordpress AP plugin and Friends [snarfed].
# StarrWulfe Big issue now seems to be replies aren't ending up in the feeds for me to see and interact with in Friends...
# StarrWulfe Let me try and create something on the fly right now while you're here...
# [snarfed] we also changed reply delivery recently, fixed https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1047 , that may have fixed it
# StarrWulfe (but really, I'm a big edge case, and I'm sure nobody else but me even thinkns about using Wordpress/Bridgy/all/the/things like I do.
# StarrWulfe Let me check that issue and see if it fixed it though! BRB
# starrwulfe Ok I created https://starrwulfe.xyz/notes/2024/07/593c2fce1a/
# starrwulfe Let’s see if I see it in Bsky via the bridge
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Loqi [preview] [starrwulfe] This is a test note from my blog mainly to test if the Bridgyfed bridge between Bluesky and the AP plugin is two-way or not…
this is only a #test. Share on federated SNShttps://starrwulfe.xyz/b/3bVT
# StarrWulfe (note the uglified markdownification of that last bit there... not sure how that happened...)
# StarrWulfe Ok, let's try a reply to it now...
# StarrWulfe wrote a bsky reply at https://bsky.app/profile/starrwulfe.xyz/post/3kwdw6vbjsc2f but don't see that reply coming from out of Bsky back into the fedi... hmmmmmm...
# StarrWulfe Friends doesn't like the activityPub feed from https://bsky.brid.gy/ap/did:plc:ke5adm7cnbxc5ek34fsrt5bt for some reason...
# StarrWulfe @[snarfed
# StarrWulfe @[snarfed] I think what's happening is that the blog never properly "registered" to get replies from the bridge? All my posts seem to go over there but nothing federates back.
# StarrWulfe (sorry for typos, new keyboard here)
# StarrWulfe both. they're complementary of each other and I don't know which one does the heavy lifting between the two
# StarrWulfe I don't know which one has the inbox part that isn't responding properly
# StarrWulfe I wonder if it still has something to do with the dot in the username issue I thought we cleared up already
# StarrWulfe Thanks! Nah, grab a crowbar and reopen. Do me a favor and send a smiley or something to that thread I created via your @snarfed.org@snarfed.org so I can rule out the dot
# StarrWulfe ...while I catch up on reading that issue thread here...
# StarrWulfe yep
# StarrWulfe got it and replied back. OK looks like there's been a regression maybe?
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# StarrWulfe what's also strange is that my other AP account isn't seeing the bsky user's response either though.
# StarrWulfe @starrwulfe@social.vivaldi.net also should see since it's on the bridge as @starrwulfe.social.vivaldi.net.ap.brid.gy over there and participated in the exchange.
# StarrWulfe I can see it on the Bsky side but can't see anything on the AP side coming from @starrwulfe.xyz@bsky.brid.gy showing up in any federated timeline where I know I should see something.
# [snarfed] missing replies is kind of inherent in AP, so much so that they tried to account for it in the spec, https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#inbox-forwarding , but it's still a problem regardless
# [snarfed] you'll probably want to add your WP and plugin versions to https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/issues/571
# StarrWulfe I try to account for the foolishness by @ mentioning whenever I think about it to be on the safe side usually.
# StarrWulfe Here's the strange thing-- I was getting everything my Bsky account posted across the bridge into friends including forwards all the way up to 3 hours ago. So it's kinda perplexing why this one thing would stop all posts from crossing the bridge.
# StarrWulfe I got an idea: let me try responding to a post originated by my Bsky account...
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# ptramo[d] started putting a lot of animations on my landing page. I think I find them rather annoying overall. main benefit is that nothing is visible until the document has finished loading, which I found quite frustrating
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