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capjamesg[d] [tantek] Did rel=sweetheart get any adoption?
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[tantek] I'd like to get a few more examples in https://indieweb.org/rel-author#IndieWeb_Examples if we could!
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[Joe_Crawford] I do the rel-me to verify links i have put on my Mastodon profile, but I’ve not added rel-author. I was vaguely under the impression (probably a misimpression!) that was more for journalism on a site that was neither mastodon nor a personal website and there would then be a way to verify authorship of a link when shared.
# [tantek] I think "rel=alternate type=application/activity+json" is a bit different in that it is saying literally this is the exact same object/content as the current page, except in a different format. Whereas "rel=author type=application/activity+json", especially on a post permalink page, is not saying it's the same object/content.
# [snarfed] when you put rel=alternate on your posts, the useful functionality you get is that you can then search for the post permalink in a fediverse instance and it pulls up your federated post. https://fed.brid.gy/docs#web-searchable
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# Northri Hello, I was wondering if somebody could help point an absolute nooby in the right direction?
# ptramo[d] Northri: Don’t ask to ask, just ask 👋
# Northri Oh thank you! One second while I write this out...
# Northri I have a terribly ugly .md file with a ton of random HTML that I would like to throw in the dumpster. I am a total noob, and I'm not super interested in learning HTML on a deep level. I just want to put together a simple website, not just a blog. Is there a way to do that without learning TOO much HTML?
# Northri Not to be lazy, but I have little interest in web building other than this project, and I don't have a ton of time to learn a whole new language.
# Northri Advanced enough to wrap text around some images, and it would be nice to add audio and some video as well. I'm happy to self-host if it's not overly difficult.
# ptramo[d] You might find a Hugo template that does what you want, then it’s a matter of throwing some markdown and yaml together
# Northri Good deal, I will look into that. I am fine with markdown and I have a vague sense of how to use YAML. Thank you!
# ptramo[d] Hugo is one of many solutions. CMS typically take more infrastructure to deploy, Hugo is a static site generator.
# Northri Hold on, I know markdown doesn't do text wrapping without HTML bits added. Does Hugo have a cure for this?
# Northri Because all that random HTML is why my current "blog" is so cumbersome and ugly.
# ptramo[d] Text wrapping as in have text follow the curve of an image?
# Northri Like I might post an image on the right side of the page and I want the text to go over the top, back up to the sides, ,then back under the bottom.
# Northri Hard to explain, but basically MD only lets you post an image and you have to have your text above and/or below the image.
# ptramo[d] Yeah so expressing this in html is one line, idk that you can beat that?
# Northri It's more than that, really. That was just one example.
# Northri Does Hugo basically just do the self-hosting part? I would love something that lets you visually do things..
# ptramo[d] Well, it’s gonna end up being html one way or another, either you write html directly, or you write something that’s converted to html, or you use a graphical tool that will in all likelihood produce html directly.
# Northri Well shoot.. I guess I'll have to keep working on this. Not trying to be sassy with you! I appreciate the help.
# ptramo[d] No worries, just trying to help didn’t take anything poorly
# Northri Do you think Wordpress is a better idea for somebody like me? I don't mind learning HTML over time, but this project is a bit more time sensitive.
# ptramo[d] Self hosting requires a web server you run yourself; the advantage of static site generators like Hugo is that you only have to point a server that handles static files at a directory.
# ptramo[d] I’m not super familiar with the Wordpress ecosystem, last I checked content authoring was rather limited out of the box, but it won’t take long to try it and look for extensions
# ptramo[d] If you want to make a few pages quickly you can also try an editor like adobe dreamweaver.
# Northri That's true. I guess the first step is to learn some HTML basics. Who knows, I might be able to convert my current dumpster fire to something usable.
# Northri It TECHNICALLY works as a raw html file in a browser.
# ptramo[d] Well dreamweaver typically lets you do things graphically without learning html and css upfront, then you can start modifying in and out of it
# Northri I like that! It's definitely an option. I'm going to do some research on both of these options. Thank you again, and have a nice day : )
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jeremycherfas To get text wrap, you need to have at least some CSS associated with the HTML. Then it is relatively easy to use Markdown and add CSS
# Northri OK dokie, I'll check CSS out as well : )
# jeremycherfas Things like `float:right;` and `float:left;` do what you want, and you can add those to the `![]()` syntax in some Markdown dialects.
# ptramo[d] You can try something a simple as <img src="demo.jpeg" style="float:right"/>
# jeremycherfas ptramo[d]++ for simplicity
# beanbrain hey so i'm back from the other day
# beanbrain i had the idea while at work that i could create a user with write access to my site directory
# beanbrain and also give this user ssh access, then just rsync to that user.
# beanbrain would that work? is it a sensibly secure way to push to the site dir?
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[schmarty] beanbrain: that should work fine!
# beanbrain ok! i'll try it!
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# [tantek] [snarfed] do you have a homepage or repo for "homegrown"? can you add it to /homegrown (or feel free to otherwise expand/edit that page)
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Loqi homegrown is a thin shell wrapper around wp-cli https://indieweb.org/homegrown
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