#dev 2024-10-22
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nsmsn mattl, have you looked into Orbstack? https://orbstack.dev/
# nsmsn [edit] mattl, have you looked into Orbstack? https://orbstack.dev/
# nsmsn [edit] mattl, have you looked into Orbstack? https://orbstack.dev/
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[schmarty] insert "it works on my machine 😭 / then we'll ship your machine 🫂" meme
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[Joe_Crawford] I had one workplace with a stack so complicated they referred to getting it running locally as "The developer day of pain" -- and it was pretty awful.
# [Joe_Crawford] Another was pretty great, but non-local, all AWS. I think it was pricey for them, they added timeouts to retire unused boxes.
# [Joe_Crawford] "boxes"
# [Joe_Crawford] My understanding is Docker by default will hoover up all the host machine resources it can. Is the slowness of the Docker machine, or what it does to your machine?
# [Joe_Crawford] Or both?
# [schmarty] docker should only hoover up all the host machine resources that its containers are configured to hoover up. 🤔
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Loqi A toolchain is how web development is often made far more complicated than necessary (most toolchains are targeted at enterprises or large dev teams, you can start with simple HTML+CSS+JS and a text editor instead), scaring away all but the most privileged from venturing into web development https://indieweb.org/toolchain
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[tantek] do we have anyone in here in Australia? especially who's writing DST / TZ code? TIL Australia has quite the wacky mix of timezones, 30-minute offsets, and variance in which areas have DST changes and which don't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_Australia
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[Murray] Love the idea that this is being done for front end devs, who probably want nothing to do with any of it 😅 If it helps, as a front end dev, I've taken to using DDEV for locally running server environments and it is _an absolute joy_ compared to everything else (though my servers are all Craft CMS and they have a supported DDEV config, which definitely helps)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Gulp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Gulp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek] anybody here actually using Gulp in their /toolchain for their personal site?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "lando" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "lando is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# Loqi Heroku is a platform as a service (PaaS) that supports Ruby, Java, Node.js, Scala, Clojure, Python, PHP and others https://indieweb.org/heroku
# [Joe_Crawford] sounds like short notice.