#dev 2024-12-11

2024-12-11 UTC
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doesnm im dumb. Wiki has my answer and i forgot this. Writing tester because lazy to do all actions manually
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[Murray] A welcome move by Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/blog/introducing-netlify-free-plan/
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[Murray] Already "downgraded" my account, as I've come perilously close to hitting the max on server functions a few times recently šŸ˜¬
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funkylarma I'm currently using their Starter plan and got an email to say I would be put on the Free plan in January. Could not see any issues with this and like you say a very welcome move.
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funkylarma Does anyone have any experience or comparisons with CloudFlare pages and Netlify?
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[Joe_Crawford] https://blogofthe.day/ uses Netlify and I also got the email. I've been just the least bit paranoid about the fact that this service is so valuable and yet I'm paying nothing--so it's great to get clarity on what Free entails and where the edges would be.
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[Murray] Got the "we're downgrading you" email _after_ already manually downgrading šŸ˜„ Guess I caught the news early
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[Murray] @funkylarma I've not used CloudFlare Pages, but from what I've heard the two are pretty similar. Netlify tends to have a few more "leading-edge" integrations with things like Next.js and Astro, but if that's not a particular draw I imagine they're pretty comparable
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[Murray] hmm, Log Rocket tend to be pretty good with their articles. This one is a little old, but it suggests CloudFlare has a generally better "starter plan" equivalent: https://blog.logrocket.com/netlify-vs-cloudflare-pages/#netlify-vs-cloudflare-summary
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[Murray] depending on how things go with some new changes I'm working on, I might actually have to consider checking them out šŸ˜„
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[mattl] Check out http://bunny.net too.
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[mattl] Iā€™m using a mix of http://bunny.net and Cloudflare to host a site for virtually free
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[Murray] Does Bunny have something comparable to Netlify? It looks like a CDN replacement, with a dash of storage on top?
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[mattl] Isn't that basically what Netlify does?
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[Joe_Crawford] I think of Netlify as "serverless web hosting" somehow. And Cloudflare I think of as "firewall and load balancer as a service." I also suspect I am nowhere near encapsulating what either do.
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[Murray] Netlify is web hosting, like Cloudflare Pages (not Cloudflare)
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superkuh https://indieweb.org/netlify#Criticism
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superkuh It's good that they seem to have been forced to resolve some of these issues. But I'd still avoid them since their culture is the same as ever.
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[Murray] any reason my change on that page has been rolled back?
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superkuh I was just looking at that. Seems like the update was put into the wrong section?
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[Murray] Criticism?
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superkuh I think both of us were editing the page the same day, left the tab open, then didn't realize the other had made edits.
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[Murray] ah šŸ˜„ I can add it back in, I did it this morning
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superkuh Weird that it says I made an edit today. I have not.
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[Murray] done
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superkuh Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
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superkuh I last changed it 31st of october.
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superkuh Any, good it's fixed.
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superkuh way.
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[Murray] yeah it does seem like it somehow triggered a rollback šŸ¤· no worries, cleared up
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superkuh Thanks.
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[mattl] Yeah, http://bunny.net is web hosting too. Combine it with Cloudflare to cache stuff for free and it's a great little static publishing thing for pennies.
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carrvo It is really interesting to hear about ways to publically host for free/pennies.
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carrvo Right now I am focused on self-hosting because I want some services inside my home and keep it from leaving my home network. Isolation fallback is the theme šŸ™‚
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[mattl] I'm lucky that the vast majority of my hosting is donated.
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carrvo Less external traffic, no public security issues, and availability if I loose internet are appealing for me at the moment.
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carrvo [mattl] that is convenient!
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Kolev I finally gave posts pretty URLs! šŸ˜€
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funkylarma Had a closer look at CloudFlare Pages this afternoon and decided to give it a try. Changed the name servers on my domain and everything is running from CloudFlare
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gRegor Kolev++ nice!
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Loqi Kolev has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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carrvo Apparently I started with Apache 1.5 years ago. Wow. Thought it was just 6 months...
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Kolev Pages still have .html tho.
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