#dev 2024-12-26
2024-12-26 UTC
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Geonames" yet. Would you like to create it?_T (Or just say "Geonames is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] When I tapped it, it gave me a link to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_neighborhoods_by_city which is more thorough than I would have expected!
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superkuh It blows my mind that people use html elements barely covered by late 2023 browser and pretend this is being accessible. re: popover.
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# superkuh Accessibility without compatibility is neither.
# superkuh Supporting only modern browsers is like only having steps and no ramp.
# superkuh Sorry, gotta have a modern wheelchair that can climb stairs.
# superkuh Just grumbling to myself over https://htmhell.dev/adventcalendar/2024/22/
# superkuh title is perfectly accessible for old browsers. It's only new ones that broke it.
# superkuh If I were to write such a thing it'd be a rant against rapid change. Because change is what causes the problem.
# superkuh alt -> title -> popover is just one instance.
# [Joe_Crawford] superkuh are you stuck on a machine you can't install a new browser on? is that why this has come up? I certainly have run into tricky browser issues for friends with very old (>20 year) hardware. Tricky things with SSL and such in particular. But in most cases more modern browsers based on newer runtimes are available.
# superkuh I do often use older machines and older OSes and older browsers. But I am not the only person. There are significantly more people using old computers and old browsers than JS dependent statistics would suggest.
# [Joe_Crawford] Ok. Beyond the rant, is there something dev can assist you with? I'm not sure "I'm angry and I disagree with a thing on the internet" is a great use of this helpful space.
# superkuh You're right. I probably don't fit in here.
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# [Joe_Crawford] Sorry, but I am *certain* that's not what I said or indicated. We share this space, to try to help each other accomplish things and learn. When we lose sight of that, or a particular problem, it is easy to get mired in anger at all wrong with the world or all the things we disagree with. That would be some other space.
# carrvo[d] Has the AI generated search results been useful for people? I keep finding that either there is no link for me to save so I can refer to the answer later or that it shows me part of the content with a "click for more" that has none of the content in the preview.
# carrvo[d] Hmm. Maybe that would be better asked in a different channel.
# [Joe_Crawford] If that's a q about Google's ai-generated summations, I have not found them more useful and I use DuckDuckGo slightly more. And add `-ai` when I remember in Google.
# [Joe_Crawford] And [tantek] your question about neighborhoods in cities and an api there are a number of apis for location. Mostly what I've dealt with is Google and Bing's Maps autocomplete address apis which is about specific address. But there's interesting neighborhood geocoding in the location data they provide. I'd want to see example queries of what you hope to put in and what you expect out before commenting on what's possible.
# [Joe_Crawford] I've also done work identifying proper postal address and zip and zip+4 but I can't remember what endpoint we dealt with for that. But again, that wasn't exploratory as much as it was laser targeted on a correct final address format.
# [tantek] E.g. the alphabetical list is both long and has bits of hierarchy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communities_and_neighborhoods_of_San_Diego
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk I'm having a bit of trouble understanding webauthn.
# capjamesg[d] I am using https://github.com/duo-labs/duo-blog-going-passwordless-with-py-webauthn/blob/main/src/app.py as a reference.
# capjamesg[d] [edit] I am using https://github.com/duo-labs/duo-blog-going-passwordless-with-py-webauthn/blob/main/src/app.py as a reference.
# capjamesg[d] I don't understand how my app should know what to use as an ID to look up the credentials that authorize a user at the /generate-authentication-options stage.
# capjamesg[d] Wait, it looks like the ID is optional.
# [Joe_Crawford] Most metros over a million people are going to have vagaries around naming and boundaries. In part because cities are living things. Looking at Google’s apis their places api does imply you can narrow to places but it’s really about finding businesses and entities that are that size. Library. Post office, park. You showcase a Wikipedia page and they do have an api which could be narrowed to location to find parallel “list of
# [Joe_Crawford] communities and neighborhoods”
# [Joe_Crawford] Very neat problem, and I understand why it doesn’t exist as such. Search is tuned to a purpose, “find me dog groomers in SoHo” not “what are the neighborhoods in london?” … it’s a search that’s in the middle, before you get specific.
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# capjamesg[d] aaronpk Passkeys are really amazing!
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# [morganm] Im really trying to wrap my head around this https://utopia.fyi/
# [morganm] Fluid typography and spacing seems like such a better solution but my brain is not immediately getting it
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# _pi_r2_0[d] huge fan of web passkeys
# capjamesg[d] aaronpk Yes!
# capjamesg[d] It took a few hours to get my head around it.
# capjamesg[d] But now I can use Touch ID to auth!
# capjamesg[d] Is this the right UX?
# capjamesg[d] The username/password are not necessary for passkeys.
# capjamesg[d] Or should I have a landing login page that has the two buttons, then have a separate page for username/password?
# _pi_r2_0[d] I would consider login "tabs" to indicate there are 2 paths early on?
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