#dev 2025-04-16

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carrvo zachary.kai++ aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 60 karma in this channel over the last year (134 in all channels)
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Loqi zachary.kai has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (5 in all channels)
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vikanezrimaya [schmarty]: 🕸️💍.ws seems to have IndieAuth misconfigured? `missing_iss`, probably because `indielogin.com` doesn't forward `iss` from my authorization endpoint (I literally double-checked, and in my `kittybox-indieauth` crate I use for IndieAuth types, it is not an optional field, so I couldn't've not passed it)
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vikanezrimaya additionally it looks like my neighbor to the right didn't put their webring links??? might need some gardening i dunno
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vikanezrimaya [KevinMarks]: re: crawlers: would be double funny if this was caused by some sort of weird google crawler itself... or are their crawlers nice enough? honestly can't expect anything good from Google these days
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mandaris https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/blog/h1-element-styles/
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[schmarty] thanks vikanezrimaya! yeah there's a known issue with the webring's indieauth for some folks' endpoints. i don't currently have a way to reproduce the issue locally, so it's been on my backburner a while. for example: https://fusil.uk/publications/2025/03/12/18211/
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[schmarty] your neighbor to the left (fluffy) and to the right (http://avris.it) both appear to have their webring links. fluffy's are floating absolutely positioned at the bottom of the viewport. avris' are in the footer.
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Loqi [preview] AndreaVos
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gRegor [schmarty], I'm poking around the source code, I don't think I see `session_start()` being called. Presuming https://git.schmarty.net/schmarty/gem-diamond is still the correct source.
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gRegor That usually needs to happen early on before any headers/content get sent, public/index.php probably a good place for it. Without that I think the check in $_SESSION for the original issuer will fail.
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gRegor Just tried signing in with my site that has the newer metadata+issuer doc and also got missing_iss, so that's my best guess.
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Loqi [aaronpk] has 61 karma in this channel over the last year (135 in all channels)
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[jeremycherfas] [aaronpk]++ thanks for quick repair. I can reach Monocle again.
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[schmarty] gRegor++ thanks!! Will take a look.
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Loqi gRegor has 34 karma in this channel over the last year (102 in all channels)
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[KevinMarks] https://v.cx/2025/04/mastodon-exit-interview
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[tantek] Wow
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[tantek] That thread that's linked from that post too, 😮‍💨 https://bsky.app/profile/r.v.cx/post/3kldku4rh2s2k
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[tantek] what is migration
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Loqi migration in the context of the indieweb refers to the process of moving your indieweb site from any one or more of one CMS / web host / DNS provider / URL design / domain name to another https://indieweb.org/migration
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[tantek] migration << Thread of migration related challenges (among others) https://bsky.app/profile/r.v.cx/post/3kldku4rh2s2k
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Loqi ok, I added "Thread of migration related challenges (among others) https://bsky.app/profile/r.v.cx/post/3kldku4rh2s2k" to the "See Also" section of /migration https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=100915&oldid=92531
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aaronpk wow that thread
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[tantek] And that post! Finally read the whole thing and goodness sakes it reminds me of old school Mark Pilgrim style blog post takedowns
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[tantek] Mastodon << Criticism (lots to unpack) 2025-04-10 [https://v.cx/2025/04/mastodon-exit-interview Mastodon Exit Interview]
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism (lots to unpack) 2025-04-10 [https://v.cx/2025/04/mastodon-exit-interview Mastodon Exit Interview]" to the "See Also" section of /Mastodon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=100916&oldid=99402
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[tantek] Has anyone built and indieweb-based voting site or service? Not poll/vote posts, but rather a site you sign into with Web sign-in and then vote on something (whether a poll, or ranked choice, approvals, or other form of votes)
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[tantek] an* indieweb-based
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aaronpk that's been on my list for literal years, i have some sketches somewhere of how i want it to work
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capjamesg I would like this too 😄
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capjamesg I did have a webmention-based poll briefly.
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Zegnat I have a bunch of hobby code for different voting systems to tally by, but never thought to turn it into a service
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[KevinMarks] I did build Technorati vote links 20 years ago, but the uptake wasn't great
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btrem re: browsers changing styles for <h1>. I was a holdout for nested <h1> elements, but gave up a couple of years ago. It's a pity that it was never implemented, because it was such a useful idea.
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btrem Just a couple of weeks ago, I was writing a nunjucks macro, and had to add a second parameter for heading level. Clumsy to say the least.
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btrem Apparently, TBL had an idea for scoped headers back in the day (90s, I assume), but it never got off the ground, alas.
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gRegor Google is nudging Android's Google Assistant use to Gemini and "later this year, the classic Google Assistant will no longer be accessible on most mobile devices" Frustrating. https://blog.google/products/gemini/google-assistant-gemini-mobile/
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btrem gRegor: are those ai tools?
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gRegor Gemini is. Google Assistant is the "classic" voice-to-x thing. Granted, most of my usage has been to tell it "remind me x at y time" or "Navigate x" for quick pulling up maps
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gRegor I can get by without using the Gemini replacement, just frustrating they're mostly not giving a choice. I opted out for now, but eventually it will be the default.
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gRegor More privacy info if anyone's interested: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/13594961
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gRegor There's human reviewers "Please don’t enter confidential information in your conversations or any data you wouldn’t want a reviewer to see or Google to use to improve our products, services, and machine-learning technologies."
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gRegor Ah, you can turn off the Gemini Apps Activity so it's not reviewed or used: https://myactivity.google.com/product/gemini
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[snarfed] maybe => #indieweb-random?
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btrem Are there any Soverin email users here? I'd love to ask some questions that are not on their website (or are sufficiently hidden away somewhere.) ;-) Happy to chat privately.