#dev 2025-05-19
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capjamesg I'm working on my print stylesheet. https://jamesg.blog/2021/07/21/building-a-blog-search-engine-part-ii is an example page with a code snippet. I have scrolling enabled on desktop right now, but this doesn't translate to print. The code snippet gets cut off on print.
# capjamesg [edit] I'm working on my print stylesheet. https://jamesg.blog/2021/07/21/building-a-blog-search-engine-part-ii is an example page with a code snippet. I have scrolling enabled on desktop right now, but this doesn't translate to print. The code snippet gets cut off on print.
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[tantek] capjamesg, alternating light green and off-white horizontal backgrounds with fake paper holes. here you go: https://www.pdp8online.com/images/greenbar.shtml
# [tantek] here's another sample you can extrapolate from: https://i.sstatic.net/JUonzd2C.png
# [tantek] capjamesg, IMO 80cpl is a good coding limit. This post makes some of the psychological (rather than historical) points: https://laprade.blog/80-char-line-limit
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perryflynn in code projects I am at 120 for a long time. so I can have to coding windows very comfy on a 4k screen. for code on blog posts I still stick to shorter lines exactly because of readability. but it's difficult anyway, as it is broken on mobile/responsive layouts without a horizontal scroll bar anyway.
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# [tantek] [snarfed] when did BridgyFed notifications stop displaying the text of what was "reacted to" and only display "--" instead? E.g. when I go to https://fed.brid.gy/web/tantek.com/notifications I see "reposted -- " and "liked https://tantek.com/2025/138/t1/ran-bay-to-breakers"? Seems like a UX regression
# [snarfed] unrelated, personally I don't find https://laprade.blog/80-char-line-limit very convincing. it's largely trying to apply research on reading _prose text_ to _code_, but they're very different. I don't read code remotely like I read text, totally different experience, not nearly as much scanning/skimming
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[schmarty] lol the green and white dot matrix print styles. that gave me flashbacks!!
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[artlung] No, but there is our pal, the lh unit. https://codepen.io/artlung/pen/ZYYNJOx
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# [tantek] emoji << Nicer version of that Unicode page of all the emojis: https://codewordcreative.com/find-emojis.html
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Loqi ok, I added "Nicer version of that Unicode page of all the emojis: https://codewordcreative.com/find-emojis.html" to the "See Also" section of /emoji https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=101535&oldid=101519
# [tantek] green << Example UI of a theme switcher between light, dark, eco-mode: https://codewordcreative.com/find-emojis.html
# Loqi ok, I added "Example UI of a theme switcher between light, dark, eco-mode: https://codewordcreative.com/find-emojis.html" to the "See Also" section of /green_computing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=101536&oldid=101265
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# [artlung] did someone say "_green and white dot matrix print styles. that gave me flashbacks!!" -- (paging [schmarty]) --_ https://codepen.io/artlung/pen/ZYYNJOx .... definitely feeling those flashbacks myself.
# perryflynn How should I handle different languages in Micropub/Microformats? I would like to post notes in german and in english. At least for h-entry the microformats wiki does not list a language property. I found this one here: https://microformats.org/wiki/multilingual-examples but how is this handled on micropub/microformats json level?
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gRegor Ooh, that's a good question. I think that might fall under extensions, though not sure if it's been discussed yet: https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions
# [schmarty] artlung++
# gRegor mf2 doesn't have its own language property but uses the HTML `lang` attribute. There's some experimenting with that in the mf2 parsers, where it gets returned at the same level as the `type` and `properties`. Example: https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fseblog.nl%2F2016%2F02%2F21%2F1%2Fsjiphol-leedies-djentelmen-sjiphol
# perryflynn nice. if my current PR at micropublish.net is through I'll ask barryf if he would accept such a feature as PR no. 2. :-) Thanks gRegor
# perryflynn since it is already in mf2-php, there is no protocol extension necessary, right?
# gRegor https://micropub.spec.indieweb.org/#reserved-properties has some details, it should be brainstormed and discussed on that extensions page (or I think there's a github linked from there)
# gRegor But I don't see it there or on https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues
# perryflynn multilanguage is quite a journey, I had to craft alot of stuff for jekyll in the past, too.
# perryflynn but thanks again, will put it on my todo list.
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# [artlung] capjamesg++ nice. Tantek, for some context, at least I think this is helpful context -- I discovered a few months ago that I could pull webmentions from the indieweb wiki. I do it on https://artlung.com/front-end-study-hall/ - I noticed some webmentions to FrESH pages. Including 2 from _This Week in the IndieWeb_ which James had sent in March.
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# gRegor Haha, that reply on Mastodon "Tractor feed paper? The box model hack? How many different ways do you have to make me feel old in one post?" http://toot.wales/@woe2you/114536854532931076
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