#dev 2025-08-14

2025-08-14 UTC
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[snarfed]
interesting! I didn't think the bug was intermittent, but it is a but complicated
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gRegor
re-sent the follow with that "users" url and looks like it worked
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[snarfed]
(it works through the UI with the web-based URLs, just not via webmention)
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gRegor
Gotcha. Think I've only ever used webmention. Force of habit / novelty, idk haha
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gRegor
Well, also nice having the follow posts on my site so I can maintain a list, theoretically.
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[social]
gRegor I sorted my robots.txt issue as I had two I saved in BBEdit with one for my dev. sub-domain and the other from my main site. I didn’t follow-up on my note to self to add the “s” back on the one for my main site.
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[Jo]
This spam email cracked me up. There's no way someone found my page on Google at all
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[KevinMarks]
I get those, and I sometimes reply "what did you search?" given I have ranked first for my name for over 20 years and once started a project at Google to help people find other people named Kevin Marks
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paperbritt
Moving this to dev at the request of our friendly and respectful bot. Any suggestions are very welcome.
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capjamesg
I think Cloudflare has a solution to help with this.
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capjamesg
I have many IP blocks and user agent blocks on my server but if it ever got too much I think I'd go to Cloudflare.
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[tantek]2
I feel like this is something more and more web hosts are going to have to figure out on behalf of their customers because it's too much to expect every site admin to do this manually (or not great to have everyone "just use Cloudflare")
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aaronpk
cloudflare is also working on a spec for AI crawlers to self-identify themselves. not to block them, but to allow specific ones.
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aaronpk
like imagine instead of just yes/no, it's "block all AI crawlers except chatgpt.com" https://media.aaronpk.com/2025/08/14065535-3779.png
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paperbritt
I've avoided setting up a CDN because it's just another thing to maintain, especially for a site usually with daily traffic well under 100.
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aaronpk
cloudflare is very easy to set up at least
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aaronpk
but i agree telling everyone to "just use cloudflare" is not a good long term solution
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paperbritt
That's good to know.
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capjamesg
[tantek] aaronpk +1 re: having more solutions than just Cloudflare.
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paperbritt
Is it possible the same AI scrapers have come via indieweb.org? Using the wiki user list to find their next websites? If so it's probably worth everyone else keeping an eye on their traffic.
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paperbritt
The timing with the problems there is odd.
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paperbritt
My site isn't worth the money running these bots is probably costing someone.
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aaronpk
relatedly, I apparently forgot to set up logrotate on the indieweb server and the access log file for indieweb.org is 42gb
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[snarfed]
gotta love SEO spam
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[artlung]
paperbritt are there caching layers available to you for your site? I'm seeing this page in the woocommerce docs https://developer.woocommerce.com/docs/best-practices/performance/configuring-caching-plugins/
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paperbritt
I've got litespeed cache set up, fully supported by the host with redis for the object cache. The litespeed cache plugin has a few settings specifically for WooCommerce but I honestly struggle with the amount of settings between that and wordfence, so if you told me something was misconfigured I wouldn't be surprised.
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[tantek]2
what is litespeed
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Loqi
LiteSpeed (AKA LightSpeed) [HTTPD] is Apache drop-in replacement commercial web server software https://indieweb.org/Litespeed
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[tantek]2
paperbritt, if you have a link/reference to docs for litespeed cache, perhaps you could add a brief citation / "How to setup cache" subsection on that page ^ ? Thanks!