#dev 2025-08-13

2025-08-13 UTC
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[snarfed] right. also we talked about this featured question recently, right? https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-08-06#t1754495132437900
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[tantek] sure, the question of whether "featured" is reasonable to interpret as "banner" or "background", and I don't really think it is
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[Jo] just got an email from debian about apache2 issues or something. I didn't even know i had apache still installed 😶‍🌫️
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[Jo] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/2025/08/msg00009.html
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nsmsn [edit] Kelp UI is another project I’m keeping an eye on (for folks not interested in building a UI from scratch, or layering on to something accessible and functional) https://kelpui.com/
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[snarfed] [tantek] oh, no, that's a good question, but I was replying to capjamesg's https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-08-12#t1755033912342400 , which I think we answered before
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capjamesg [snarfed] Thank you!
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capjamesg I wasn't sure I understood the first response.
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capjamesg I read https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-08-06/1754495875176300 as it potentially being possible.
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capjamesg [edit] I read https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-08-06/1754495875176300 as it potentially being possible.
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[snarfed] yes! short answer is, Bridgy/Bridgy Fed mostly don't care about your HTML, they just use whatever comes out of the mf2 parser
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[snarfed] so any way you can make the mf2 parser emit featured should work
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capjamesg Ahh nice!
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capjamesg [snarfed]++ thank you for the clarification!
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capjamesg [edit] I read https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-08-06/1754495875176300 as it potentially being possible.
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Loqi [preview] [[snarfed]] I wonder if what other markup besides img you could use that would parse into the photo property
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[tantek] capjamesg, short answer, whatever markup makes semantic sense in your page
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[tantek] microformats parsing rules are designed to adapt to "normal" good use of semantic markup. your assumption should be to just do the right thing for HTML as you would anyway, and then adding the microformats2 class names will "just" work
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[tantek] this is a very old FAQ https://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._Can_microformats_use_other_elements_besides_divs?
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carrvo Is this something acceptable? https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/pull/28 Or should I be closing it?
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carrvo [edit] Is this something acceptable? https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/pull/28 Or should I be closing it?
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Loqi [preview] [carrvo] #28 normalize issuer as a sanity check
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[tantek] aaronpk ^ ?
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carrvo There, an extra detail added as a comment in case it helps.
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carrvo gRegor++ [tantek]++
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gRegor Looks good at a glance. I can pull sometime soon and run the tests to make sure
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carrvo I appreciate the responses since I am trying to clean up some of my forks.
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gRegor Or maybe I just need to give the github CI a bump and have it run tests. I think they pause automatic runs if there hasn't been activity in the repo in a while. I ran into that with php-mf2
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carrvo If it helps my setup has been using that change for months 🙂 Though tests are always better!
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gRegor Ah, it was the scheduled actions on php-mf2 that pause after a while. That makes sense. Not sure why indieauth-client-php action isn't running
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gRegor https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/blob/main/.github/workflows/main.yml
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gRegor Huh, on the Actions tab I don't see an action in the left column. But that `.github/workflows/main.yml` file definitely exists.
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gRegor Comparing to php-mf2 repo Actions tab, the latter has a "Build" action there.
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gRegor Hm, maybe just needed to touch a file. I updated main.yml to add `workflow_dispatch` event which lets you manually run a workflow. It queued up and ran it right away, didn't even have to manually trigger it.
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carrvo Glad I accidentially helped shore up the workflows!
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gRegor I'm going to try closing and re-opening the PR, because I think that should trigger the workflow
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gRegor "By default, a workflow only runs when a pull_request event's activity type is opened, synchronize, or reopened"
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gRegor tests running! \o/
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gRegor I need to add PHP82, but I'll merge this first
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gRegor it has PHP8 and 81, so feel ok with that
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gRegor Merged!
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carrvo Thank you! I will make an issue on my end to remove the hack from my project 😄
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carrvo Just to confirm, does it automatically make it onto the Composer/Pear package? Or will that entail another step?
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carrvo I am also just thinking of just closing this one: https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/pull/29 It may be nice to see a log message with some more detail as to why something failed, but it really is not needed.
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carrvo [edit] I am also just thinking of just closing this one: https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/pull/29 It may be nice to see a log message with some more detail as to why something failed, but it really is not needed.
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Loqi [preview] [carrvo] #29 additional logging for errors
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gRegor No, we'll need to schedule a release before it goes out broadly
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gRegor I'd leave 29 open for now. I can't look at it right now but I can soon.
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gRegor I'm actually not too familiar with packagist releases, I don't know if it automatically updates from github releases?
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gRegor It does appear to be automatic from the latest github release, so that's nice: https://packagist.org/packages/indieauth/client
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gRegor carrvo++ for the PR and nudge to fix the workflow
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carrvo Always glad to help.
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carrvo No rush on anything.
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gRegor [snarfed], looks like BF returned "Couldn't load https://social.lol/@annie" when I tried to follow triggered by a webmention. Log: https://fed.brid.gy/log?path=%2Fqueue%2Fwebmention%2C%2Finbox&start_time=1755127169&key=https%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com%2F2025%2F08%2Ffollowed-annie%2F
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gRegor Not sure if that automatically retries
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[snarfed] ugh yeah gRegor https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/1172 is still not fixed 😭
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] #1172 web => AP: webmention follows aren't resolving URLs to actor ids
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[snarfed] sorry
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[snarfed] if you u-follow-of https://social.lol/users/annie that should work
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gRegor ah, ok. thanks!
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gRegor Is it intermittent? Because I followed someone in... May I think? I can look it up and comment there if it helps
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gRegor This kinda rings a bell... at Portland last year I recall you looking at something about my follows on there, some had actor IDs and some didn't
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[snarfed] yup, same bug
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gRegor Followed jgarber successfully in May, they're showing up: https://gregorlove.com/2025/05/followed-jason-garber/
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Loqi [preview] [gRegor Morrill] Followed Jason Garber on indieweb.social