#dev 2025-11-05

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gRegor The articles further down probably also interesting reading
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cupparex I will continue to learn about this. In the spirit of this community I have decided to remove the google analytics i added a couple days ago (was planning to track where my traffic was coming from as a habit from having an internet marketing background). I think for this site I will let go of that tool and judge my reach based on engagement and natural interaction, and concentrate more on writing. At some point I will list my
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cupparex gRegor: Ive put a couple in tabs to read lol already, thank you for pointing me to this resource
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cupparex [edit] I will continue to learn about this. In the spirit of this community I have decided to remove the google analytics i added a couple days ago (was planning to track where my traffic was coming from as a habit from having an internet marketing background). I think for this site I will let go of that tool and judge my reach based on engagement and natural interaction, and concentrate more on writing. At some point I will l
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gRegor what is analytics
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Loqi analytics is the collection, analysis and reporting of a websites traffic https://indieweb.org/analytics
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gRegor Whatever you're comfortable with really. I don't think removing analytics in particular is a key part of the indieweb. There's various reasons people may choose different analytics options, or to not have them.
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[tantek] gRegor++ for doing the tests and providing the facts 🙏
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[tantek] Another view of analytics is that like anything indieweb, ask yourself what specifically are you getting out of putting something on your personal site? if you're not sure what you're getting out of it, remove it. the simpler a personal site, the better. less admintax, better for the users/viewers/environment etc.
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[tantek] or consider, do server logs alone give you "enough" analytics that you don't need script based analytics?
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cupparex gRegor: I appreciate you pointing me in the direction of the Gdpr and analytics pages so I can make a fully informed decision and for doing those tests. eRegor++
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gRegor welcome!
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cupparex [tantek]: My main reason is I want to see where traffic is coming from and what posts are being interacted with the most. I wanted to use traffic as a way to figure out what places are worth my time when implementing POSSE
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[tantek] server logs would seem to be sufficient for that, which (popular) posts to POSSE, and which sites are referring you
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[tantek] cupparex++ for a good use-case for referrer analytics -> which referrers to keep POSSEing to (or not)
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cupparex [tantek]: ok, don't laugh. I've never even heard of or used server logs lol
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cupparex what is a server log
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "server log" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "server log is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] cupparex, there's lots here that lots of us have (nearly?) never heard of or used, so you are in good company 🙏
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gRegor server log is /log
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Loqi ok
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[tantek] what is log
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Loqi 🪵 A log in the context of the IndieWeb is likely a web server log, like an Apache log or nginx log, logs for IndieWeb services like Bridgy, possibly short for weblog, or the IRC chat log https://indieweb.org/log
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cupparex <<<<going to be busy reading all night lol seriously everyone thank you for the conversation tantek++
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gRegor The ever expansive wiki, heh
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cupparex this week i've been surfing it by clicking the random page thing on the side bar
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[tantek] whoa amazing! have you found any gems that way?
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cupparex oh i have about 20 saved
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cupparex actually just shared in #indieweb one that i found really interesting and I think the concept could be fleshed out to help people see the value in indieweb
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cupparex what is use case
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Loqi Because there is as broad an array of types of websites as there are people, a motivating personal factor for joining the IndieWeb may entail a particular use case one has in mind for what they want to do online or how they'd like to interact with others https://indieweb.org/use_case
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cupparex I also found generations, the blogging challenges, webrings, digital gardens, the to do page, and a whole lot of pages that are above my knowledge base to understand right now
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cupparex I know generations is an abandoned concept, but I do think that even if the levels are abandoned, the core concept of helping those that know a little less than you are how communities grow
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cupparex been finding some cool blogs by using the random blog link on the sidebar too
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cupparex what is obsidian
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Loqi Obsidian is a free, multi-platform application for writing and maintaining plain text notes (for longevity) as markdown files that you can publish to your personal-domain https://indieweb.org/Obsidian
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cupparex this one was also really great.
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cupparex As an aside - I absolutely love how the wiki links out to show examples of different things in use. It's interesting to see how different things are implemented and how tools are combined by people differently.
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carrvo CuppaRex[d] : I fully understand your sentiment! I quite noticed how much "implement your own" is prominent within the community--despite the "own a website then you are" (yes, this is technically correct but not how the average person will feel). I am actively working on a product that can work off-the-shelf (without limiting custom implementation) for people who are not technical enough, don't have the time, etc.
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carrvo I have a demo of what I currently do here: https://turner.enemyterritory.org/user/carrvo/website/Journey-to-MIndie.html
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aaronpk ATProto has a BoF meeting today https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bofreq-newbold-authenticated-transfer/
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2025/11/05070943-2702.jpg
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aaronpk bridgy fed shoutout!
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[snarfed] 😁
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2025/11/05075654-1585.jpg
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aaronpk omg sorry for the horrible capture
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aaronpk i tried
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cupparex can anyone help me figure out why my sparkline isn't clickable?
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cupparex myprofile is here https://indieweb.org/User:Crystaltouchton.com
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cupparex my template is here https://indieweb.org/Template:cupparex
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cupparex I can not for the life of me get it clickable where it goes to my profile page.
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capjamesg CuppaRex[d] I don’t think you need the includeonly bit.
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cupparex ok, thank you. I'll try that. i copied that from a tutorial, but i might have gotten confused about how to use that
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cupparex capjamesg[d]: that was it. Thank you so much! I was pulling my hair out
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cupparex capjamesg++
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cupparex well I thought it was fixed. it works here https://indieweb.org/Template:cupparex but when i use the {{cupparex}} in my profile template as a test it's not showing as clickable. I have no idea what's going on
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gRegor It's all good. Wiki links to the page you're on don't work
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gRegor Example: https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox#testing
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gRegor You can see it in action on some of the event pages too. For example, at the bottom of https://indieweb.org/events/2025-10-14-front-end-study-hall, the "10-14" is bolded instead of a link, because that's the page you're on. I should update the tutorial to note that, thanks for bringing it up!
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cupparex oh ok, thank you. I was drivin' myself nuts lol
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gRegor Ack, sorry about the frustration!
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cupparex @egreggo++
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gRegor Also at the top of that page under participants you can see how we commonly use those templates: https://indieweb.org/events/2025-10-14-front-end-study-hall#Participants
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cupparex I'm just glad there's all this info. 🙂
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cupparex lol i guess i couldn't spell
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cupparex eRegor++
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gRegor haha all good
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[Jo] eRegor-- another theft from gRegor++
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gRegor I've been called weirder things :)
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gRegor My own about page includes "Floyd" as a possible pronunciation XD
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tpa0ps 969116
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tpa0ps whoops.. wrong window
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.pi.r2. quick, 20s left for account takeover
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[snarfed] interesting that there are two SWICG meetings at W3C TPAC coming up, back to back. is that intentional?
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[snarfed] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/853f023a-d5ce-44ec-a222-3b4c8ec849a9/
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[snarfed] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5ce4d187-2916-4efc-9c22-5650e1794105/
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