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2026-04-30 UTC
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[capjamesg] Does anyone know if you can use https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.en for the source code of a document but have a separate license for images?
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[capjamesg] I want to license a project under CC0 but I still want my mascot, which is used in the project, to be all rights reserved.
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[tantek] I believe so yes
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[tantek] Rel=license only applies to the direct document content. Not embedded resources
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trwnh Question: There doesn't seem to be a link relation for an "abuse"/"moderation"/"admin"/etc point-of-contact. Is there prior art in the Indieweb space re: what to do when encountering content that should be reported for some kind of action? (takedown, etc)
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trwnh The wiki page on /moderation seems to only explore holding comments for human review, which can be a good preventative measure, but doesn't seem to cover arbitrary communication of concerns
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trwnh I know that culturally there is a greater emphasis on "own your site" and this can lead to a single-tenancy assumption but user-generated content is still a model that exists and hosts should be able to advertise a point-of-contact, kind of like the HTTP equivalent of DNS WHOIS
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trwnh So I'm wondering if anyone knows of anything relevant here -- thanks!
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[capjamesg] This is definitely something that is worth us expanding on the wiki. I don’t have an immediate answer to your question but maybe someone else here has some information that could help.
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[capjamesg] https://community.hachyderm.io/docs/mastodon/moderation/report-feature/ might be helpful if you are trying to design a report flow.
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[capjamesg] That shows both the report flow for users and the view admins see to resolve a moderation flag.
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trwnh Specifically it's about where to send the report, I guess
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trwnh Even in Mastodon-like workflows, users file a report against a post or profile, but then the Flag activity that Mastodon sends out will just go to a regular inbox (or a shared inbox if one is found)
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rod I was wondering which static site generators people were using. It seems a bit impractical for me to have to repeat things like headers and footers. I have used Jekyll before but I wanted to see what is popular in this community
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trwnh It can be a problem if reports intended for moderators end up in user inboxes, so what I'm writing about rn is "how to discover who the moderators are" so that moderation-related activities can be sent to moderators instead of directly to users (where the moderators might never see it)
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trwnh But then I found 0 defined IANA link relations related to anything close to that, so I'm asking here :p
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trwnh (But WHOIS contains abuse contact info, so there is *some* precedent!)
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[capjamesg] rod https://indieweb.org/static_site_generator#IndieWeb_Examples lists a few.
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[capjamesg] 11ty and Hugo are popular ones in the community too.
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[capjamesg] We also have a few community members who hand-write all their HTML.
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TwinAdam rod I've used Jekyll and 11ty. There's lots of good templates and IndieWeb plugins for most major SSGs
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trwnh ^ i was going to say hugo, personally, yeah -- lifesaver for multidimensional sites (language, version, etc)
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[capjamesg] Oooh I have never heard the term “multidimensional site” before.
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[capjamesg] That is a really good term.
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trwnh it's new in hugo 0.156 https://gohugo.io/functions/hugo/sites/ they recently cleaned up their concept model a lot and that's the new term for all the different "variants" of content
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trwnh oof, rel="contact" was already used by XFN apparently for... not who to contact administratively, but to indicate that you consider that person to be a contact https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values
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[aciccarello] That last link you have is probably the best list of rel values I know of
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trwnh well aside from https://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml yeah ^_^
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[Leo] Not sure if this is the best channel to ask, lmk
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[Leo] I have a blog (http://lbrito.ca/blog) compiled with nanoc. I'm reading about https://news.indieweb.org/how-to-submit-a-post and thinking how I could implement it in my workflow. Nanoc compiles _all_ the pages every build, so the most trivial approach for me would be to just do new POSTs each time I deploy, one for each blog post. But I don't want to spam your servers or generate duplicated entries.
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[Leo] Do you have some kind of filtering to avoid duplicates? Is this a reasonable approach? Otherwise I'd have to either keep track of what blogposts I sent a webmentions for, or do something clever to figure that out without persisting, and neither options seem attractive.
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gRegor There's a manual submit form if you don't want to send webmentions, seems like a decent option: https://news.indieweb.org/en/submit
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gRegor afaik, IndieNews does de-duplicate so multiples wouldn't show up, but it would be nice to not send a lot of repeat webmentions, unless there's actual updates to the post :)
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gRegor I'm not on a static site though, others here are and might have ideas from their experience
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[Leo] Thanks! I figured as much. Wondering if people mostly automate or just manually submit.
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rod thanks @trwnh
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rod i find it so funny that with most ssg you don't really interact with the language it's in
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rod i thought to maybe use a python one or use hugo but i didn't have to write much (or any) Ruby for Jekyll
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ZodiacalComet rod: I did start with zola, but moved to rolling my own thing that does what I want. Not recommended if you want to actually work on the site tho
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[tantek] Haha we have a whole section on that
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[tantek] What is a CMS
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Loqi A content management system (often abbreviated as CMS) is software used to create, enter, edit, update, delete content on websites; some CMSs are used for IndieWeb sites, see the tables on this page for current usage https://indieweb.org/CMS
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[tantek] ZodiacalComet: https://indieweb.org/content_management_system#Use_an_existing_CMS_or_write_your_own?
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ZodiacalComet Yeah, stumbled upon that one while looking up CMS. Liked the idea of making the content data that can be exported easily to other formats.
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ZodiacalComet And the graph in there is gold