#dev 2026-07-20

2026-07-20 UTC
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WinnerWind
[tantek]: on the subject of short domains, i think the rememberability of a domain is much more important than its brevity. a while ago i had the domain ww.in.d (on a local net) and i remember hating having to type that in
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WinnerWind
hence why im happy with winnerwind.in
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WinnerWind
[tantek]: spam alert, common discord spam making the rounds
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[niklasfyi]
How do you handle timezones on your blogs? Currently, my blog just shows UTC. But if I am using a micropub client that uses my local timezone I run into problems. For instance yesterday I posted something right after midnight which was related to the day I was posting on. But due to my blog showing UTC the date on the post on the blog was the day before. How do you do that? Decide on a Timezone for the blog? Show the actual timezone from
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[niklasfyi]
when it was posted?
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WinnerWind
i decided to keep it opinionated and decide what timezone the user should see (i.e. my own timezone, IST), and then add "IST" to the end of the time
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[niklasfyi]
Right now that makes more sense to me as well. I was just wondering how I would handle that if I ever was on vacation on the other side of the world 😄 But usually I travel in europe so ±1 h doesn't really matter
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aaronpk
My site uses my local time for everything
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aaronpk
Including updating my local time when I move around
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aaronpk
Which is fun when I travel across the date line because some of my days have very few posts and some days are super long
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WinnerWind
[niklasfyi]: if it helps, i encode the timezone in the date string itself (using the ISO format)
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WinnerWind
this way its both usable and computer readable
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[niklasfyi]
[aaronpk] That's interesting. Could be weird when you post in one timezone and then cross date lines and post again and the post shows up in the list before the other one 😄 (or am I confused here?)
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[niklasfyi]
Yep. I do ISO aswell. But I am using a SSG and save the files in YYYY/MM/DD folders. But there it might makes sense to stick to my "home" timezone for saving the files
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aaronpk
[niklasfyi]: They are sorted by absolute time
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aaronpk
But they show up on the "right" day
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aaronpk
Oh I guess the secret that makes that work is I have a database index of the posts that can sort by absolute time even tho the posts are in the local time folder
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[aciccarello]
[niklasfyi] I have a static site. I render everything in UTC but have client-side JS re-write that to the local browser time.
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Loqi
[aciccarello]: [artlung] left you a message 2 days, 19 hours ago: to check out https://github.com/keithjgrant/local-micropub by [keithjgrant] when you get back from vacation
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[aciccarello]
Oh cool! Good to see Keith J Grant doing more micropub stuff
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[aciccarello]
I had been using Indiekit for some micropub testing in Omnibear but it's overkill for that use case. Might switch to this.
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aaronpk
My site isn't static but I do store posts in folders by date, and I didn't want posts made after 4pm in my time to be in tomorrow's folder
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[aciccarello]
This post is a good example of my site. The date in the slug is UTC but for US timezones it'll show a date of May 16th. https://www.ciccarello.me/posts/2026/05/17/kids-birding/
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Loqi
[preview] [Anthony Ciccarello] Thanks to my family for coming out this morning. It was fun sharing the birds with both the kids and adults. The indigo buntings and orioles were a big hit and it was really cool having the bald eagles to fly over for us. Even with the big group we s... https://www.ciccarello.me/assets/img/2026-05-kids-birding-kneeling.jpg
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[aciccarello]
On blog posts I don't show the time it was posted but I do still update the date
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doesnm
have anyone partitioned in game jams? There is one in 2 days
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[aciccarello]
What's an in game jam?
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tdrayson
I store local wall-clock time plus the timezone it happened in, never UTC, and display it with the offset (Wed 1 Jul 2026, 9:30am +01:00) so the date in my permalink always matches the day I actually experienced.
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[aciccarello]
I'm trying to remember why I made my choice. I think some micropub clients don't pass the local timezone so I often only had UTC and no offset information.
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[aciccarello]
I also like the idea that if I were posting about a live event (like a sports game), someone could see it in their time and know at what point it was posted.
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doesnm
[aciccarello]: events where game developers made games by some theme in a limited time (usually 48 hours)
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[aciccarello]
Reminds me of the css challenges [artlung] does.
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[tantek]
Sounds like there's a need for a micropub issue on this and perhaps some test cases
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[tantek]
what is timezone
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Loqi
Timezones are names used to highlight regions on the globe that are used to define a uniform time for society's use (legal, finance, social) https://indieweb.org/timezone
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[tantek]
"highlight"? that's a wonky dfn
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[tantek]
and no indieweb relevance in the dfn
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[tantek]
^ all that timezone discussion could use capturing on /timezone in an IndieWeb Examples section
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[tantek]
alright, examples section stubbed, have it folks. cc aaronpk, nklasfyi, aciccarello, tdrayson
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courtneyr_dev
Hey folks - I've been working on a WP plugin to support Post Kinds in block themes. I've gotten approval to submit it. :D
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courtneyr_dev
I did a security audit of the plugin, and its dependencies, and found something to disclose. Can you point me to the disclosure policy
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[tantek]
hi courtneyr_dev, that kind of special WordPress process knowledge (plugin security audit disclosure policy) may be better answered in the #indieweb-wordpress channel
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courtneyr_dev
thanks, headed over :)
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