#dev 2026-09-12

2026-09-12 UTC
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doesnm idea: making ircv3 proxy which will connect to libera and provide ircv3 features to indieweb users. Example: chathistory from indieweb chat logs, metadata from chat-names and etc
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WinnerWind that would require setting up an indieweb specific server, but ill be honest, i like that idea
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WinnerWind my libera chat channel list is already super unmanagable because im in so many channels
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WinnerWind also having them named the same as #dev and #random like how it is in slack would be cool
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doesnm i'm in 27 including queries
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WinnerWind im in 28 EXCLUDING queries, haha
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doesnm without queries only 19
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doesnm that would require setting up an indieweb specific server, but ill be honest, i like that idea <- aaron don't want separate server because it would be hard to migrate so i see it as middle layer
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WinnerWind libera could be the cannonical place but a indieweb specific proxy would be cool
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WinnerWind that said, i already use a bouncer
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doesnm me neither
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WinnerWind but an indieweb specific server i still vote yes. :)
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vansh095709 Make a website for my own as this is made throught vibe coding and individually https://pointverse.org
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rnkn IWDiscord: what does your vibe coded website do?
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[manton] Hi folks! Interesting spam on http://Micro.blog today that I wanted to mention in case it becomes widespread… It appears someone created a hosted site with ChatGPT Sites that sent hundreds of webmentions out. Unfortunately I’m an idiot and cleared out all the spam before confirming the details, so it’s possible it wasn’t webmention.
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[manton] Anyway, first time I had seen ChatGPT used for this. Something to think about.
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[tantek] Possibly pingback?
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[manton] I don’t think I actually support old-school pingback. Webmentions should verify reply linking at least. Hmm.
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[artlung] [manton] when you say "hundreds of webmentions" - is this a single page sending hundreds to a single site, or a hundred different pages sending to a hundred micro blog pages?
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[artlung] _I've not seen *any* webmention spam across any of my sites and I have been soliciting webmentions across - uh - 14 domains for several years and not seen anything I consider spam. It's possible I suppose http://webmention.io is doing filtering of bad actors._
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[manton] [artlung] I don’t know. 😞 I just saw that there were about 140 replies routed to various http://Micro.blog usernames in just a few hours.
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[manton] And more individual blog posts posts than that.
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[artlung] appreciate the report, regardless. I'll also add that for some of my own webmention-accepting surface area I have Akismet enabled so it's possible WP/Akismet has prevented some webmentions coming in
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[manton] Nice, that’s good.
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[artlung] Part of webmentions is that requirement to persistently create a page, sort of making it a Xanadu-style transclusion. Most spammers are in the "fire and forget" business, not in the "I want my page to live forever" business.
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[artlung] (automation of course, makes it possible to [whynotboth.gif] it
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[manton] Okay, I’ve tracked it down through my records of the source/target webmentions. Here’s an example post and you can see the u-in-reply-to pointed to someone’s Micro.blog-hosted blog. There are many of these. https://chenghui-focused-tools.dapper-kiwi-8512.chatgpt.site/community/reply-woman-in-white-voice-map
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[manton] It’s possible this wasn’t meant to be spam, but just an AI experiment gone wrong.
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[artlung] https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fchenghui-focused-tools.dapper-kiwi-8512.chatgpt.site%2Fcommunity%2Freply-woman-in-white-voice-map
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doesnm oh cool this domain are under cloudflare and shows "Sorry, you have been blocked"
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[manton] If I throttled incoming webmentions based on hostname, like assume a real blog is not going to send more than one every minute, that might’ve stopped this.
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doesnm (i'm about chatgpt.site)
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[artlung] and an h-card. with this app-shilling site: https://chenghui-focused-tools.dapper-kiwi-8512.chatgpt.site
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[artlung] A single blog post as I and some other folks blog could reference several dozen links - link wrapups, and weeknotes could end up sending up to 3 dozen links. But the odds a plurality would be to http://micro.blog sites is low. But yes, definitely something to consider throttling.
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[artlung] spam--
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Loqi spam has -1 karma over the last year
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doesnm spicy ham?
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[manton] [artlung] Thanks for your thoughts. 👍
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[artlung] There's an old web aphorism that "a piece of social software is proved popular when it starts getting spam." With automated tools, probably less true. But a grain of truth in it.
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[Morgan_M] I agree with this ++ the existence of this idea. If your thing gets popular, people are gonna do stuff you dont like with it
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[artlung] I suppose the software in this case would be micro dot blog or webmentions writ large or both. Or Claude, in the case of what you saw [manton]
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[artlung] _err.. not claude - chatgpt dot site._
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[manton] For completeness I should also mention https://indieweb.org/Vouch, which to be honest I’ve not supported because it feels almost too restrictive.
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gRegor Yeah, so few senders of Vouch, so if you required it, basically all incoming webmentions would be rejected :/
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[tantek] lol chatgpt .site. Block it everywhere
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