#dev 2026-10-06
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[artlung] I rather like the way PixelFed had added language about this to their core README ... see https://indieweb.org/AI_policy#Platform_Examples
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "README.md" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "README.md is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "AGENTS,md" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "AGENTS,md is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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WinnerWind sliceofpie: I have just went a webmention to your site, can you check if you got it? page: https://jlopes.eu/blog/design-tokens-beyond-dark-mode/
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WinnerWind not sure if my webmention script is compliant
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offeringofpie morning winnerwind[d] , thank you for mentioning me in your article 🙂 I haven't received the webmention yet, but no worries. can test later too
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: aw, that means my script is still buggy, will take a look
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: does your page use cloudflare?
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offeringofpie migrated a few days ago, site is show pretty much static content, but tested that the webmentions logic work
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: i see.
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offeringofpie I could've missed something tho 😅 it's 6:30 am here
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: must be my server then, thanks!
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WinnerWind ah, seems as though its my website that isn't sending links properly
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WinnerWind ah, it appears my poison page decided to trigger for webmentions ._.
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: I think the webmention sent successfully! can't see it on your site but i looked at the raw data and its there. thanks for the help!
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offeringofpie awesome, ty for trying again 🙂 I'll redeploy when I'm back home
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burgeonlab Can webmention.io show emojis? When someone replies on Mastodon with an emoji, and it goes to bridgy, which shows up in wm.io .jf2 "content" (both HTML and text). I seem to only get `????` question marks. I thought it was something to do with utf-8 encoding but maybe not? Is it a bridgy or wm.io problem, can anyone give some pointers? Thanks so much 🙏
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kensanata I keep thinking about simple sabotage via AGENTS.md … https://alexschroeder.ch/view/2026-03-12-agent-sabotage
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offeringofpie I might make a version of that in the form of mcp or llms.txt . also, #butlerian_jihad ❤️ (don't mind working with AI, but scraping consent is key)
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kensanata The only AGENTS.md I actually added to one of my projects is this: https://github.com/kensanata/mastodon-archive/blob/main/AGENTS.md
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kensanata [capjamesg]: thanks for the opensearch.xml pointer!
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kensanata That's definitely something I need to add to my search engine's HTML template. https://alexschroeder.ch/view/xobaque/index
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burgeonlab oh that's good to know. I'll remove the existing question marks for old webmentions.
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offeringofpie winnerwind[d] updated and mention shows up! 🎉
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: success! i see the mention on your site, thanks for helping me debug it!
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offeringofpie thank you for mentioning, your website style, or shall i call it screenlife/OS, and article about it are awesome
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WinnerWind offeringofpie: not dev related, but your blogs are really interesting to read and well researched, it would be hard not to think about them ^_^
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offeringofpie aww thanks 🙂 I'm a slow writer and love to mix topics and fields
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "human.json" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "human.json is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi Well-known refers to designating a common URL on domains for data to be located typically automatically by some software (like a browser or a search engine), and is generally an antipattern to be avoided, because it breaks the portability of content across directories and systems; see follow your nose instead https://indieweb.org/Humans.txt
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kensanata human.json is a convention of hosting a JSON file on your web site declaring that you are a human (not a corporation, not an AI) and allowing you to vouch for others by linking to their sites. They, in turn, may or may not have a human.json file, too. See https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json for more.
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kensanata Hm, I guess somebody else needs to tell Loqi
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kensanata capjamesg: I added the opensearch.xml info to the search sites I run, and now I'm actually not sure whether Firefox needed this file. I can right click into the search field and "Add search engine" and it appears not to use any of the info. How strange.
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kensanata For example: https://search.emacslife.com/search linking to https://search.emacslife.com/opensearch
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kensanata I have no opinion about that since I didn't know of humans.txt
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kensanata Just recently somebody linked me to https://wasabipesto-bot.github.io/humanjson/
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kensanata so my main concerns are around consent, data privacy, supporting the scrapers looking for human texts to ingest and so on.
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kensanata But, in a way, I'm also interested in building human centric web, so some of that may be unavoidable. In any case, since I don't know the inception story behind either of these two formats, I have no opinion on your point and cannot speak to it.
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kensanata I don't disagree.
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Loqi The sidefile-antipattern is a violation of the DRY principle by the use of secondary files (typically in some one-off XML format) to provide information that is a duplicate of information available in primary files on a website (in HTML), and is an antipattern due to typical DRY violation problems such as out-of-date, missing, corrupted, or outright false data https://indieweb.org/sidefile
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kensanata To me, the format is similar to FOAF.
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kensanata Files with metadata are common.
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Loqi [preview] [Aaron Parecki] Clearly this is a sign we need to have an IndieWebCamp in Vienna #indie #foaf https://aaronparecki.com/img/1240x0/2022/03/30/15/photo.jpg
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[artlung] The impulse to create collectives from individuals remains strong. I wrote about FOAF a few years ago, and yes, it failed. humans.json has a similar problem, yes, with the same root idea, but with the addition that it can be a sort of network of trust, assuming enough people do so. I do have human.json, though I fear it will meet the same fate.
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[artlung] The essential tension is that to create collectives of sites, networks, one must get many individuals to participate, and they may not wish to do so, or may have never heard of it. So the bar is high to get folks to opt-in. Same problem with sorting out how to create a planet from human.json - which was just asked about in the human json Codeberg. https://codeberg.org/robida/human.json/issues/63
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[artlung] This is my FOAF piece. https://artlung.com/blog/2024/05/31/goodbye-foaf/
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Loqi A planet, in the context of the indieweb, and blogs/feeds for even longer, is a site that aggregates feeds/updates from a variety of sources, typically focused on a particular topic or community https://indieweb.org/planet
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Loqi RDF is an abbreviation for Resource Description Format, an early-ish part of XML-related technology, that was pitched as the Semantic Web, used in Trackback and RSS 1.0 (but dropped by Pingback and RSS 2.0 respectively), later rebranded as Linked Data, experimentally published in the past, but not used by any indieweb use-cases in practice https://indieweb.org/FOAF
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Loqi Well-known refers to designating a common URL on domains for data to be located typically automatically by some software (like a browser or a search engine), and is generally an antipattern to be avoided, because it breaks the portability of content across directories and systems; see follow your nose instead https://indieweb.org/human.json
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