#dev 2026-10-19

2026-10-19 UTC
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GWG I just finished the security and bug fixes on my location code, so I'm doing a run through the Static Maps API PHP repo I took over from aaronpk. Since he has Atlas, I'm taking this version in a slightly different direction as I fix map support for tile servers that changed, and add some features because bots are pummeling my instance.
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GWG Mostly the same stuff I did for everything else. Testing suite, PHP 8 compatibility, docblocks.
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aaronpk nice
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GWG aaronpk: That's the stuff I'll never take the time to do. I hate writing tests.
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GWG I'm also adding a config.php file to allow easy updating of the tile server configs separate from the main file, adding a simple query API to return what tile servers are configured, moving the API key option into there...
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GWG Making it much more of a 2026 version of the same idea
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aaronpk i was inspired and decided to knock out a bunch of open issues on Overland tonight
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aaronpk new beta version coming through testflight once apple approves it
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GWG aaronpk: I'm writing about Compass, Overland, Colota, Dawarich, and GeoPulse right now.
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GWG I have not done some writing on software I use in a bit
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[jeremycherfas] Signed up for the Overland Testflight; looking forward to trying it out. Changes look interesting.
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ulhar4409 In theory, if I have some OAuth provider I also want to use for indieauth, would I just need to copy its details to a json file and link to that with rel=indieauth-metadata ? Because I'm a little tempted to do some tinkering with that
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wturrell anyone want to offer a second opinion on <cite> vs <i> vs <em>? My current rule of thumb is: <cite> for names of works, e.g. article, blog post, book, play, whatever, but NOT a newspaper, magazine it might appear in, which I would style with <i> (if I want to), because there's no "stress" implied that would justify using <em>
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offeringofpie maybe <cite> with class periodical for newpapers/magazines/etc, with `font-style: italic;` in it. Keeps it semantic. but yes <i> could work too, to not apply stress on the text
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trwnh cite for titles of works i'm citing; em for when i'm adding emphasis; i for idiomatic text
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trwnh if i wanted to style a newspaper name i'd use span probably
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trwnh there's not actually any semantic in html for marking up newspapers or magazines, so a span is the most specific you could get really
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trwnh *a or span
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wturrell yep, that's the impression I got. re-reading MDN; hadn't paid enough attention to the "idiomatic" section (you can probably pretty much guarantee everyone sees <i> and thinks "italic"…)
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wturrell (thank you!)
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trwnh b i u getting repurposed is funny but ultimately possible to make sense of, yeah
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ulhar4409 managed to find a github repo that does pretty much exactly what I was wanting to do (bridge indieauth <--> openid connect), it has a few rough edges but seems workable
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GWG Link to repo?
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ulhar4409 https://github.com/tionis/indieauth-bridge this thing
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GWG That seems like the reverse.. I'd want to log into oidc supporting sites with my indieauth endpoint. But I suppose I might just have to make it support oidc as well as indieauth for that.
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GWG I hate having two endpoints
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ulhar4409 I guess saying "indieauth <--> oidc" is a little vague on my part, tbf
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aaronpk part of my goal with the recent indieauth spec changes are to make it more closely compatible with OAuth/OIDC so that adding full OIDC support is a very small addition on top
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[Murray] what is oidc
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Loqi OpenID Connect is an authentication protocol built on OAuth 2.0, that in practice is not implemented to provide open (portable) identifiers across systems, nor does it have anything to do with OpenID (1 or 2) except in name, but instead, identities are tied to a specific identity provider https://indieweb.org/OIDC
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GWG aaronpk: Did I miss a recent spec change discussion? Is there a citation on that?
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aaronpk this is the most recent example, but some of these are old changes https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth/issues/141
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GWG aaronpk: That one I saw. Just wondering what else I might have missed
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GWG I looked at how many self hosted projects I installed that support oidc and figured that it might be worth it to have my website handle logins
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GWG I also considered trying to get the self hosted projects to support indieauth
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ulhar4409 oh also, aaronpk: `redirect.indieauth.rocks` has a certificate error i think
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ulhar4409 right now if i open it it gives a warning about the cert, and if i click "accept the risk and continue" it redirects to indieweb.org
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WinnerWind sso.indieweb.org's certificate has expired, i think
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WinnerWind and its back, the moment i said that
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[schmarty] wow there's a lot of blog conversation to catch up on about the use of claude to rewrite many of aaronpk's indieweb tools!
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aaronpk :D
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aaronpk oh thanks ulhar, i wonder what happened
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aaronpk huh, i think i just never finished deploying it
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GWG [schmarty]: I was just thinking about you
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[schmarty] GWG: how are things with you?
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[schmarty] err => cafe, i guess. 😄
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GWG For the dev on topic part, https://github.com/dshanske/Static-Maps-API-PHP I'm really finding the experience of redoing this to be different because it's not WordPress
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Loqi [preview] [dshanske] Static-Maps-API-PHP: A PHP app that renders static maps from tile hosting services
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