#known 2015-08-20

2015-08-20 UTC
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@MarcoMu10081884 @ken_bauer doing the #WSQ02 link: https://marcobackyard.withknown.com/2015/wsq02--flipped-classroom (twitter.com/_/status/634174470299607041)
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@kaleemsagard El problema de las migraciones a medias o quizá de creer que a todos los sujetos enfermos les sirve la misma .. https://kaleemsagard.withknown.com/2015/el-problema-de-las-migraciones-a-medias-o-quiz-de (twitter.com/_/status/634182374532628481)
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mapkyca top o' t'mornin' good folk of t'interwebs
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endi :)
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mapkyca !tell misuba try the following patch https://github.com/idno/Known/pull/1019 - might help. Can't test end to end myself because of #1018, but it works up to the point the process runs out of memory :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@SoundsReflect Clear reasoning as to why #Spotify are #cuntsatchels http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/streaming-music-spotify-apple-ripping-you-off/ If you want to take their advice, .. https://symmetricalsounds.withknown.com/2015/clear-reasoning-as-to-why-spotify-are-cuntsatchelsopinionstreaming-music-spotify-apple-ripping-you-offif-you-want (twitter.com/_/status/634307658732847104)
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mapkyca Wow. that's a hashtag with some imagery...
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@marielleholmes3 Project Sunroof https://marielleholmes2k15.withknown.com/2015/should-you-get-solar-roofing https://twitter.com/marielleholmes3/status/634320699725713408/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/634320699725713408)
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endi hey mapkyca, I've got a quick Known noob question: where do you suggest adding rel="me" and rel="pgpkey" in a self-host Known install?
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endi I've tried not to fiddle around with any of the php when it comes to Known
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mapkyca endi: pretty sure that profile urls on profile pages do rel="me" automatically. rel="pgpkey" is another matter, however one of my experimental pgp plugins I wrote a while back added this I think... you might be able to adapt the code...
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endi ah ok. I didn't know if there was a .php file where I could append some rel= lines
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endi I know the profile links are properly labeled but there may be some that I don't want as functional links
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endi usually i would put them as <link rel="" href=""> in the header.. was wondering if there's an analogue I could do here that would put them into the headers of each page
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@nxD4n @diplix @withknown #WIP https://twitter.com/nxD4n/status/634373256590553088/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/634373256590553088)
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mapkyca hmmm... not at the moment, but there could be a case for a custom <head> plugin, if there isn't one already
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mapkyca failing that you could just manually put them into the template
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mapkyca iirc themes provide a more flexible mechanism for extending things (like headers) which may be a way to go
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@OnlineCrsLady KNOWN SUCCESS: the first student joined today, and it is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for! http://onlinemythindia.lauragibbs.net/2015/sanjay-patel YES! @withknown (twitter.com/_/status/634376697954062337)
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endi Hmm that just made me think of the "Custom JavaScript" in the settings
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endi I overlooked it because it said JavaScript rather than Header/Footer or JS/HTML etc
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endi but yeah, what I was thinking was to hard code it into the theme or wherever you guys recommended; would complicate updates but definitely doable
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travis-ci idno/Known#2391 (master - 179a7a5 : Ben Werdmuller): The build passed.
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travis-ci Change view : https://github.com/idno/Known/compare/12459c4ac651...179a7a5890fb
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travis-ci Build details : https://travis-ci.org/idno/Known/builds/76474626
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mapkyca !tell misuba Ahh... looks like benwerd has merged that patch, so you could try pulling the latest.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@RikMende @SocialEurope in my case it's @withknown community open-source edition, but there are WP/blogger implementation, hopefully Drupal & others (twitter.com/_/status/634395676986744832)
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@SocialEurope @RikMende @withknown We’ll have a look. Thanks! We get good comments but loads of spam and nonsense too. (twitter.com/_/status/634396194815520768)
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mapkyca ^^^ i'll take that as a +1 for some sort of comment moderation / spam filter. Loathed to implement akismet, although that might be a good stopgap.
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mapkyca benwerd: perhaps could be a useful feature for convoy...
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benwerd Yes! That conversation is about native comments on other platforms, but I think the point stands.
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cleverdevil request for comment -> https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/809be6b3c20351416bc9
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Loqi cleverdevil: mapkyca left you a message 2 days, 7 hours ago: Indeed, this is an open ticket - https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/206
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cleverdevil creating an `h-review` focused plugin (hopefully).
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cleverdevil want to be sure I'm on the right track from a markup/output perspective.
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cleverdevil (eventually, I'd like it to be able to POSSE over to silos like Goodreads, Amazon, etc.)
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mapkyca wonder if something along the lines of http://ssdeep.sourceforge.net/ might be useful - i.e. comment is hashed and sent to convoy server for analysis, then compared against a corpus of hashes of comments seen by other people in a fuzzy way (perhaps with a dictionary word local backup), might address privacy concerns. Just thinking aloud...
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@mtony75 What if colleges and universities worked as a commune? Talk about flipping higher ed on its head. https://tonyfleming.withknown.com/2015/what-if-colleges-and-universities-worked-as-a-commune-talk (twitter.com/_/status/634400109405442048)
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mapkyca although I quite like the idea of using micro payments - comments require you to pay 0.01EUR or something, which is held in escrow until the comment is approved at which you get it back (or it gets donated to a charity of your choice), but you don't get it back if it's spam. Introduces an economic cost for at scale spamming...
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mapkyca again, just thinking aloud
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benwerd cleverdevil: that looks really good to me
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benwerd Syndicating reviews to Amazon would be amazing. But it's also, quietly, a simple way for people to optionally make money from their own sites, by including affiliate links inside the things they recommend.
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benwerd I've been wanting to start writing movie reviews since forever (I used to do that on the side at the Edinburgh Festivals), and this would be great for that.
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cleverdevil indeed.
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cleverdevil well, I'll get the foundation going :)
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cleverdevil my PHP is still very very rusty, so some of the sync stuff is likely being be for a while.
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cleverdevil but, yes, that's absolutely my vision for this.
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cleverdevil being able to do as many types of reviews, with syndication to other sites, including affiliate links.
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benwerd Very cool indeed.
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cleverdevil one thing I am struggling with is the "category" stuff.
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cleverdevil technically speaking, it could be a review for pretty much anything.
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cleverdevil my gut says it'd be nice to have a pre-defined list of typical review types (Book, Movie, Generic Product, Restaurant, etc.)
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cleverdevil otherwise, it's likely to end up being wild-west.
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benwerd That's probably a good idea - remembering that people can always extend the plugin if they need to review anything you haven't covered
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cleverdevil nods
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@nxD4n @withknown @benwerd is twere a way to load custum js & css for genericDataTypes or only for custom entities? (twitter.com/_/status/634409025770291200)
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@EasyAnnot RT @jgmac1106: @OnlineCrsLady In once class I installed the @hypothes tools in @withknown custom js. Really easy and then can annotate wit… (twitter.com/_/status/634442036985335809)
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@electricarchaeo can I also suggest @withknown as a way to keep all your social media under your own control, push to other services? #msudai (twitter.com/_/status/634459026592563201)
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@electricarchaeo (and @withknown is a 1-click install on @ReclaimHosting . (I have no fiduciary interest in Reclaim). #msudai) (twitter.com/_/status/634459188308103168)
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cleverdevil benwerd: when creating a new content-type plugin (say, for reviews), and doing a dropdown, should I just use <select>?
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cleverdevil or should I try and do something more like the stylized "dropdown" for access-control/ACL
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benwerd cleverdevil: I'd say it's entirely up to you and your goals. There's no "right way" - we used the divs to have a little more control over the style.
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cleverdevil kk.
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cleverdevil I think it'll look better if its consistent.
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cleverdevil so, I'll try and clone the look.
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cleverdevil so, I think in future versions of Known, it'd be nice to have this functionality be common.
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cleverdevil meaning, plugin authors can pull in some sort of utility to create and style these types of dropdowns.
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cleverdevil for consistency.
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cleverdevil okay, feedback requested :)
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/2015/08/16-09-24.png
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cleverdevil note the "Review" icon
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/2015/08/16-09-24.png
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cleverdevil this is what it looks like
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cleverdevil oops, I mean this:
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/2015/08/16-10-31.png
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cleverdevil thoughts?
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kylewm cleverdevil: looks really good, how about switching out the "Product Name" prompt and placeholder depending on the selected product type?
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kylewm and then maybe for version 2 you could pull the book cover or movie poster or whatever for different content types :)
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cleverdevil :)
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cleverdevil good suggestions.
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cleverdevil so, anyone who wants to try: https://github.com/cleverdevil/Known-Reviews
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