#known 2015-08-28

2015-08-28 UTC
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tantek
^^^ spam?
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mapkyca
tantek: loki is posting *.withknown.com to the channel unfortunately, but yeah, it seems known is getting a bunch of spam accounts. Not sure what ben and erin's plans are in this regard
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tantek
mapkyca: indeed, I'm eagerly waiting and watching to see what they do.
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tantek
I have been doing research and documenting existing practices on this here: http://indiewebcamp.com/report_abuse (please feel free to expand with more examples!)
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mapkyca
they don't seem to be posseing as of yet, which is something, just using the domain to host the spam. My worry would be that twitter might take a view and flag the whole domain, which will be a shame for many reasons
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mapkyca
tantek: thanks for the link, will take a look...
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tantek
or google might flag the whole domain
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mapkyca
indeed... :/
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travis-ci
mapkyca/idno#54 (master - 76129e3 : Ben Werdmuller): The build was fixed.
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mapkyca
tantek: started the ball rolling and opened a ticket - https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1033
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mapkyca
if i get time I'll try and put together a PR over the weekend if nobody else gets there first
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tantek
mapkyca++ thanks for getting the ball rolling. I added the above links as reference.
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Loqi
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mapkyca
benwerd: there was some discussion of spam earlier, see #1033
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travis-ci
idno/Known#2419 (master - 7f66bd0 : Ben Werdmuller): The build passed.
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benwerd
Checking it out
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benwerd
This is cute and a little hilarious. Tempted to implement as a plugin. https://hashcash.io/index.html
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mapkyca
urrrm? it's a little handwavey as to what it actually does...
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mapkyca
or does it implement the escrow micropayment stuff I suggested before?
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mapkyca
i.e. you pay 0.02EUR to have your 0.02EUR ;) which is held in escrow until moderated, at which point you get it back
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kylewm
you pay in clock cycles instead of actual money
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kylewm
supposed to be transparent if you are commenting like a normal person, and impossible if you want to send out 100,000 spam comments
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mapkyca
cute, although my experience of comment spam/login attacks is that they're almost always curl scripts that enumerate the form and then post directly to the form action, so don't load any resources (and so won't load their fancy .js stuff). Nice idea, but I think needs more work...
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kylewm
hmm, other than the topic, there's nothing particularly spammy about https://opportunityforseoexpert.withknown.com/ ... coherent writing, not posting a ton, not a bunch of links
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kylewm
reads ToS
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mapkyca
aye, I'd be tempted not to swing the ban hammer too hard, but a report function would probably still be prudent
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mapkyca
my fear with known (hosted) and then known (self hosted + social networking stuff finally implemented) is that it becomes a tool of harrasment - e.g. 100000 of sock puppets going after women who have opinions while being on the internet. I'd certainly like to see distributable block lists etc, but I guess that's not directly related...
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benwerd
Yeah, for the record, we're aware of sites like this (we've been passed around in SEO circles) and are watching for now. We also can't proactively cut under safe harbor rules - we're not editorially responsible for content on peoples' Known sites. But a "report" function *is* prudent.
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benwerd
We're obviously also registered with DMCA etc etc.
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mapkyca
Hmmm, now that one was using POSSE to spam... although as kylewm pointed out, it's not a link farm.
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mapkyca
probably just need to change the loki rule to be https?://(www.)?withknown.com and @withknown...
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@withknown
@RikMende Oh no! We're sorry to hear that. Very frustrating. If you're self-hosting, it may be worth checking to .. http://stream.withknown.com/2015/rikmende-oh-no-were-sorry-to-hear-that-very-frustrating
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@RikMende
.@withknown self-hosting indeed...my version is Version: 0.8.2 I think I'm missing the latest version.. thanks for .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/withknown-self-hosting-indeedmy-version-is-version-082-i-think-im
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travis-ci
mapkyca/idno#55 (master - 7f66bd0 : Ben Werdmuller): The build passed.
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@RikMende
All right just moved to Known: Version 0.8.3.1 @withknown let's see how it goes, keep up the good work! I'm .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/all-right-just-moved-to-known-version-0831-withknown-lets
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@RikMende
I need to find a way to know when @withknown individual plugins are updated, get an alert or a task telling me I .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/i-need-to-find-a-way-to-know-when-withknown
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@withknown
@RikMende You're welcome. We'll keep working to make the sessions more stable so that these problems don't happen in the future.
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@RikMende
note to self: find @withknown documentation related to its template system, it's about time to customize this .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/note-to-self-find-withknown-documentation-related-to-its-template
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kylewm
aaronpk: is it easy to tamp down Loqi's twitter search filter?
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aaronpk
i can easily exclude specific words
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aaronpk
and accounts
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kylewm
maybe the best we can do is search for withknown and exclude withknown.com :/
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aaronpk
yeah that'd probably work
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