#known 2017-03-22

2017-03-22 UTC
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jeremycherfas Dgold: You got a minute?
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dgold sure, jeremycherfas, what's up?
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jeremycherfas I thought I’d have another go at getting your pnut thing working, but doing so on my local installation.
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jeremycherfas It enables fine. But as soon as I go to Account, I get an error `Not Found
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jeremycherfas The requested URL /pages/account/pnut/ was not found on this server.`
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jeremycherfas And yet it worked on my live site — least, I could attempt to put in my authorization.
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dgold okay - so you've enabled the plugin?
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jeremycherfas Yes.
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dgold have you then gone into Settings->Admin->pnut
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jeremycherfas But hangon, I went to Diagnostics, and I’m getting an error there that says my local site isn’t HTTPS.
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jeremycherfas I’m sure I haven’t seen that before.
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jeremycherfas This is withknown 0.9.2 fairly recent master
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dgold I haven't hard-coded https: into the code for pnut anywhere, jeremy, afaia
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jeremycherfas No, I don’t think that’s you at all. I am sure it is core.
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jeremycherfas I could play with it on the live version, except that nobody seems able to tell me how I delete a client from pnut.
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jeremycherfas I wwant to start again completely from scratch.
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jeremycherfas I thought that playing locally might be easi8er.
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dgold it should be - what system is the local computer using?
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jeremycherfas Mac OS. MAMP
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dgold fwiw: I downloaded the git-dev version of known, and installed the pnut plugin maybe a half dozen times
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jeremycherfas Did you ever have to delete the client at pnut
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jeremycherfas Looks like I need to spring for MAMP 4 Pro to be able to use SSL. At least, I think so.
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jeremycherfas Strike that.Dgold all worked perfectly this time around.
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dgold \0/
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dgold Fantastico!
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dgold Did you find out what was wrong?
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jeremycherfas Nope. Pure voodoo.
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jeremycherfas Aree you planning to get backfeeds from pnut?
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dgold I am!
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dgold working on that atm - mostly (for now) looking over the pnut API and how that could/would feed into Bridgy
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jeremycherfas So that would be something that gets added to brid.gy?
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dgold I was wondering how snarfed does it - so I cna understand the whole backfeed thing
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dgold conceptually, its not something that I'm titally clear on
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dgold it doesn't seem to be something that known is set up for, jeremy, unless I'm completely misreading things
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jeremycherfas I just read the wiki page on backfeeds, and that gives some hints about overall strategy.
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jeremycherfas Given that bridgy already knows about Known and seems able to write the comments, that is probably the most efficient way to go.
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dgold problem with hacking on bridgy is that it is *so* wedded into the Google AppEngine ecosystem
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dgold this isn't a criticism, btw, just that for a n00b, its pretty damned daunting
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jeremycherfas I don’t really know what that means.
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jeremycherfas But, looking at the pnut API, there are ways of seeing bookmarks, replies and reposts.
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jeremycherfas And — ignorance is bliss — that means it ought to be possible to get those and write them back to Known.
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jeremycherfas If you’re a noob, I’m a preemie.
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dgold oh, no, I completely agree
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dgold but; and this is the ten-foot-flaming BUT!!
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dgold if you look at Bridgy's code for, say, twitter, it relies on snarfed's granary
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dgold that's (again) a different GoogleAppEngine piece that scrapes html and makes json &c
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dgold so, to get pnut posts -> bridgy -> known
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dgold they have to be scraped by granary -> bridgy -> known
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dgold so, while the API is clear (well, kinda, Robert needs some doc writers) its not just a case of point granary at it & hope
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dgold i was able to rewrite the ADN plugin because it was there, just had to rewrite some stuff
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dgold the heavy lifting was in the photo upload -- which (btw) still throws an error after it's posted the photo to pnut
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jeremycherfas I’m sure you’re right. But it does also seem to be a manageable small thing, if one avoids the granary > brid.gy elements
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dgold I can't catch where the redirect error is being thrown
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jeremycherfas I haven’t tried that yet.
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dgold it posts the image to pnut, it gets the link out of the pnut post, its all _working_
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dgold its just that instead of going back to your main page, it tries to open a photo/edit page instead
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jeremycherfas Weird.
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jeremycherfas Looking at granary, snarfed suggests adding a new silo as a valuable activity. Beyond me, I’m sure, but fun to think about.
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dgold speaking of voodoo - just uploaded a pic to pnut, worked absolutely perfectly.
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dgold weirg
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dgold *d
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jeremycherfas Something must have changed!
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jeremycherfas Nice looking gin.
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jeremycherfas Is there a permalink for an individual post to pnut? I’m not seeing one.
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dgold yes - when you click the date in Known front page it takes you to the post page
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dgold https://hylozoist.ascraeus.org/2017/found-in-the-local-store---potato-gin
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dgold in that case
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dgold the pnut icon is down the end there after the two twitter handles
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jeremycherfas Ah no. I want to see what granary makes of a single pnut post.
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dgold oh
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dgold https://pnut.io/@dgold/46796 is the post address
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jeremycherfas Yup. Finally found that. And granary shows almost nothing there. So I suspect it would require getting pnut to do a bunch more markup.
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dgold yup
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dgold mind you, everything in pnut is straight json api results anyway
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dgold you can watch pnut using curl or httpie
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jeremycherfas That’ll do for now. Gotta go cook.
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[cleverdevil] Had a great chat with my daughter's school today about leveraging technology to help students, parents, and teachers to connect with each other. I recommended taking a look at Known!
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