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# 00:23 sensiblemn_ mysql -p Known < /var/www/schemas/mysql/2017032001.sql <-- i think this worked
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# 15:11 raucao i was wondering if there's an rss feed for comments
# 15:11 raucao i realized i don't notice most indieweb mentions, because i don't get any notifications
# 15:12 raucao for other blogs, i usually just subscribe to the comments feed for that
# 15:24 tantek Many indieweb sites have a notifications *page* just for that reason, much more like Facebook does, than having to bother with a feed and subscribing and separate app
# 15:25 tantek that would make a good feature request for Known
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# 16:21 raucao tantek: thx, but i don't want to have to look at a web page, when all of my other updates come in via a single app
# 16:21 raucao that's less of a notification and more of a custom feed reader with only one feed
# 16:21 raucao a simple rss feed would make it possible to just add it to one's reader
# 16:22 tantek raucao - then an RSS feed of that notifications page would work
# 16:22 tantek the notifications page is on your own website after all!
# 16:22 raucao yes, but you wouldn't even need the page for that
# 16:23 raucao i mean, could make sense, but creating a feed doesn't involve theming and all that
# 16:23 tantek that's not been the experience I've seen - people create the page first because they just want to stay on their site
# 16:23 raucao because you'd have to integrate it with the themes and all
# 16:24 raucao and all current themes woudl have to add css for it
# 16:24 tantek well that's worth discussing in a specific issue / feature request
# 16:24 raucao sure, just asking because the feed might already exist
# 16:24 tantek that themes could optionally enhance / replace
# 16:25 tantek I doubt it - the indieweb tools tend to focus on visible pages first, secondary files, well, second
# 16:25 raucao ok. i'll wait for someone who knows for sure, before opening an issue
# 16:26 raucao it's just easy to add to a whole bunch of readers that exist and people use
# 16:27 raucao it's just another representation of the content on the website, but hosted *on* the site, after all
# 16:29 raucao i do like the idea of json feed tho. xml can die in a fire for all i care ;)
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# 16:30 tantek raucao - that's one of the longterm problems with feeds in general, they seem to change formats / preferences every few years (RSS, Atom, now JSON / JSONFeed) etc.
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# 16:30 tantek hence the focus on always creating a visible page equivalent first, for longevity
# 16:30 raucao last time i checked rss and atom were both alive and well
# 16:31 tantek sure, people still have compat support, but feeds tend to go out of date with visible content. they're always an additional maintenance task
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# 16:31 raucao i have like 250 feeds in my reader, which makes up the majority of my news reading as well as streams for comments, updates, releases, etc.
# 16:31 tantek Oh I agree that's definitely still a use-case. Just one that is shrinking, especially when Google killed Reader
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# 16:32 raucao i completely disagree. google killing reader was the best thing ever. now we have properly maintained alternatives like feedbin and other ones
# 16:32 raucao i gladly pay for hosted feedbin, but i also know people hosting it themselves
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# 16:33 raucao anyway, it's fairly easy to maintain feeds, and jsonfeed just makes it childplay
# 16:33 raucao they're also used across the fediverse and that works quite well
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# 17:05 [chrisaldrich] raucao, Known does have a notifications page hidden in the UI at /account/notifications
# 17:05 [chrisaldrich] It had a link in previous versions, but it was removed because the UI for it still needs work.
# 17:05 [chrisaldrich] I don't think the typical pattern for /?_t=rss will give you an RSS feed for it though.
# 17:06 [chrisaldrich] It's possible that needs to be built in, though there are email notifications as well.
# 17:11 tantek [chrisaldrich]++ thanks Chris! I knew someone more knowledgable would know better :)
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# 19:47 [cleverdevil] I'm interested in potentially working on the notifications page for a future project.
# 19:48 [cleverdevil] Idea is to start making actionable webmentions, and I'll likely start by having Known accept webmentions for "invitations" and then be able to create an RSVP in response directly from the notifications page.
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