#known 2018-03-21
2018-03-21 UTC
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@jorgeegomez @jgkoomey @ChrisAldrich @judell A similar service (either self-hosted or subscription-based) is provided by @withknown, although I now see they're pivoting towards education (twitter.com/_/status/976283072319520769)
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@mapkyca @grib @withknown Howdy! Check permissions on your upload directory, that error means it couldn't save/read the saved file on the server (twitter.com/_/status/976376778582261765)
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# @mapkyca @jorgeegomez @withknown I think the company side of things might be, but the core application is still very much about self publishing: https://github.com/idno/Known (twitter.com/_/status/976380332017618944)
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@jgmac1106 Today I will be setting up a private social network so the family can quit @facebook and @instagram. Thinking of using @withknown.
Could be a watershed moment for #indieweb when my mom wants to quit @facebook (twitter.com/_/status/976424135785099266)
# @jgmac1106 @harmonygritz @hypervisible @funnymonkey @Autumm @sundilu @Bali_Maha @kreshleman @KateMfD @bonstewart @bbsutton @MeggieODB I quit and then rejoined. It is only way to stay up on local news and debate.
Going to quit again. Setting up a @withknown for family.
If I can teach my mom to quit and control her privacy good first step.
Hard when I think about activism and recruitment. Facebook impt funnel (twitter.com/_/status/976426881745670144)
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cweiske did you upgrade to 0.9.9? https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1768
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[kevinmarks] Known doesn't have a reader does it? Maybe multiuser does
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jeremycherfas I am on version = "0.9.9" build = 2017051501
# jeremycherfas And Quill still s not seeing syndication targets on my install.
# jeremycherfas Yes, I see it.
# jeremycherfas Sent
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@RyanStraight @harmonygritz @hypervisible @funnymonkey @Autumm @sundilu @Bali_Maha @kreshleman @KateMfD @bonstewart @bbsutton @MeggieODB Was unaware of @withknown but now I know what I'll be doing this morning while avoiding grading! š
(twitter.com/_/status/976446058120138758)
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mapkyca jeremycherfas: make sure you're using the latest github rather than the package, that's well out of date at this point. I'm trying to put some pressure to get that updated, because most of the "bugs" pushed to github are fixed in the latest builds and it's irritating cutting and pasting the same response :D
# jeremycherfas That's odd. I have a gitignore file in the install, but no git.
# jeremycherfas And I can see I am not on the latest.
# jeremycherfas But I also seem to recall that the last time I tried this, it broke something. Let me see if I can find a record.
# jeremycherfas If I want to use the latest github, do I need to preserve anything other than /uploads and config.ini?
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@cleverdevil @mestery Hey!
1. Yup. I use Micropub to post using a variety of clients on the front end. I use @withknown as my CMS right now.
2. Tons of good info on https://indieweb.org, but Iād encourage you to join us in our chat (available on both Slack and IRC - http://chat.indieweb.org). (twitter.com/_/status/976460153544327168)
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# [kevinmarks] I have a previously authorized quill on my phone that works with hosted known, but trying it fresh on the web doesn't get syndication
# jeremycherfas Do you know what build you are on?
# [kevinmarks] how do I check? http://known.kevinmarks.com/ - is there something in admin?
# jeremycherfas No, I don't think so. There is a `version.known` file that gives version and build
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# cweiske jeremycherfas, if you are on https://quill.p3k.io/new, the syndication targets list is empty, right?
# cweiske internally http://quill.p3k.io/micropub/syndications is called, which should return some json data
# jeremycherfas Nothing seems to happen. The box below vanishes, but there is not indication that anything has hapened.
# jeremycherfas I was just looking in the console. The main problem seems to be "error":"<url> malformed"
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# jeremycherfas Shall I create a gist of the response?
# jeremycherfas Really?
# jeremycherfas I'm trying to work out how best to upgrade known to the latest build, so that may be outdated. But if it is a Quill bug then I suppose it should be fixed going forward.
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@ChrisAldrich @jorgeegomez Interesting that you reference @withknown. It's actually what I personally used to reply to these tweets and own this part of the conversation! It's a spectacular self-hosted & paid option.
eg: http://stream.boffosocko.com/2018/jgkoomey-judell-as-an-inexpensive-model-of-this-approach-microblog
@jgkoomey @judell @mapkyca (twitter.com/_/status/976470242741358597)
# jeremycherfas No. I didn't. I can try that.
# jeremycherfas I logged out and back in. I see the message about No syndication targets.
# jeremycherfas I click on refresh list.
# jeremycherfas Now I see it EatPodcast on Twitter.
# jeremycherfas And I am utterly mystified, as I have not changed anything in Known.
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# jeremycherfas Ahah! Well, that's excellent news. I suppose now I ought to give it a spin.
# jeremycherfas mapkyca See above ^^^ I have it working now (I think, I hope) so will wait to upgrade to master to a time when I am less busy.
# jeremycherfas Don't wait on account of me. I'd be better off upgrading to the latest build anyway, I suspect.
# jeremycherfas We know there's a micropub endpoint, and a media endpoint, because I posted to them with Quill this morning.
# jeremycherfas Guys, just tell me this: should I attempt to upgrade my Known to the latest master now?
# @jgmac1106 @megarush1024 Just got done setting up a @withknown instance for my family, They all want off facebook and instagram now. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/976474586228363265)
# [kevinmarks] my phone (which has an old cookied version) has syndication options, but not on the mac, whne I load fresh
# jeremycherfas OK. BRB
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# jeremycherfas All went well with the upgrade (not via git). Thanks mapkyca.
# jeremycherfas Thanks too for the warning about my old PHP version. I'll get onto that.
# jeremycherfas It worked before, and I still see the target.
# jeremycherfas I'll check.
# jeremycherfas No, it doesn't. Quill posts OK to know, but although I see the Syndication Target button, it does not send to Twitter. I think I'll log out and back in again. :)
# jeremycherfas BTW, is there a way to have the Quill bookmarklet open in a new tab in Safari?
# jeremycherfas No. The Twitter plugin. Better check that that is up and running. Bridgy for backfeeds.
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# jeremycherfas Yup; that was the problem. Cwesike++
# jeremycherfas Oops
# jeremycherfas Cweiske++
# jeremycherfas It is!
# jeremycherfas It'll be interesting to see how this affects my use of Quill. Especially if I can fix the other niggle ^^^
# @RyanStraight @harmonygritz @hypervisible @funnymonkey @Autumm @sundilu @Bali_Maha @kreshleman @KateMfD @bonstewart @bbsutton @MeggieODB @withknown (I retract that. Had an account for a long time just forgot. Hrm.) (twitter.com/_/status/976503259585183744)
# jeremycherfas Open Quill bookmarklet in a new tab.
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# jeremycherfas Zegnat and I tried it in Chrome and it didn't want to play.
# jeremycherfas I currently use Safari mostly, and Chrome when I need to do something Safari won't do.
# jeremycherfas Might try again them, tomorrow. Gott go cook.
# jeremycherfas It's been a hectic and productive day here for me.
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