#known 2019-02-15
2019-02-15 UTC
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@jgmac1106 Testing my @withknown install to see if I edited the templates for notes to have post syndicate to my fediverse instance: https://github.com/jgmac1106/Known/blob/master/IdnoPlugins/Status/templates/default/entity/Status.tpl.php (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1aM3I9) (twitter.com/_/status/1096222933922578432)
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# @jgmac1106 I am a proud backer of @withknown on Open Collective but this update from @benwerd has me stoked: https://opencollective.com/known/updates/thank-you
1.0 release and IPFS file storage in the future!
https://fed.brid.gy (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/penM2) (twitter.com/_/status/1096289456913559552)
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jeremycherfas !tell [jgmac1106] I do not understand your first plugin request. How are the MB posts in your RSS but not on your site?
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[jgmac1106] JeremyCherfas go to https://micro.blog/jgmac1106
# jeremycherfas Why?
# [jgmac1106] I mean http://jgmac1106.micro.blog first
# [jgmac1106] Notice you will not see any syndicated poar on my micro blog site. The stuff you syndicate shows up in your feed and not on your site as a post.
# [jgmac1106] That will require a Micropub solution
# jeremycherfas Ah. Because I do not have a hosted site at MB, I have never understood that distinction. But as everything from you is everywhere, it has never bothered me that I might miss something from you. :)
# [jgmac1106] Yeah that is true but if I can figure that out I can intentional about communities and cross posting and decontextual replies.... But it would be cool
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# @jgmac1106 ↩️ Then @withknown it is. Best #IndieWeb option for shared or self hosting right now. Everything just works out of box (if you have the skills to put code in your box) (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/JGVMs) (twitter.com/_/status/1096429728716779526)
# [jgmac1106] okay this is driving me crazy... How can a="href" work for bridgy fed but link="href" does not.....I have tried <link> inside and oustide of content in status updates
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[cleverdevil] Read your post on plugins you are interested in [jgmac1106]. I don’t fully understand the Micro.blog Micropub one.
# [jgmac1106] you do not pay for a micro.blog account do you?
# [jgmac1106] compare my stream https://micro.blog/jgmac1106 to my micropub site: http://jgmac1106.micro.blog my rss feeds show up in my stream but stuff I syndicate doesn't get published to my page
# [jgmac1106] That I think would require the use of a micropub plugin,,,or atleast that is my naive idea on best approach
# [jgmac1106] I think the meme maker will be a fun and easy one to work, color selector and fonbt choice no way in an MVP but I think I can wrap each image in a div (maybe background but I hate content in CSS) and then overlay an h1 and h2
# [cleverdevil] Sorry, had to take a call.
# [cleverdevil] Still trying to understand the M.b one.
# [cleverdevil] So you have two sites: one on Micro.blog and one on your Known instance.
# [cleverdevil] You want things you publish on your Micro.blog site to show up in Known?
# [cleverdevil] Oh, wait, I think I understand now.
# [cleverdevil] You want to make it so that things you post on your Known site also show up on your Micro.blog *site*, not just in your Micro.blog *stream*.
# [cleverdevil] I think there is already a plugin out there that does syndication to other Micropub endpoints.
# [cleverdevil] But, not sure.
# [jgmac1106] cleverdevil++
# [jgmac1106] I already have a micropub endpoint though don't I? <link rel="micropub" href="https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/micropub/endpoint">
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@edheil ↩️ Oh, I know known and like it a lot! Was using it previously. I just wanted native comments (not just webmentions) and didn't think it had them. But I wonder if it was just that I didn't activate a plugin for it, I see there is one. (twitter.com/_/status/1096454490335649793)
# [cleverdevil] So you would want to add your Micro.blog site's Micropub endpoint into the IndieSyndicate configuration.
# [cleverdevil] Then, you'd be able to toggle on syndication from your Known site to your Micro.blog site, which would result in the post showing up in both places.
# @edheil ↩️ also, I thought maybe it would be good for me to use something more mainstream, just for the experience of it and the options it would open up re: plugins/themes/etc. Turns out I kind of hate most wordpress themes though & love the look of known (twitter.com/_/status/1096454751330418688)
# [jgmac1106] okay i don't have the time today (and last two days of my 14 day HAM radio challenge ..that I didn't start...but I figure I got a 65% on pretest ,may only take a few hours) but I will roll this out in Austin (more likely get people to fix what I mess up)
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# @edheil ↩️ well geez, @withknown totally has comments if you activate the darn plugin. I worry a little about spam control. I mean, withknown probably has some security-thru-obscurity, but still.... (twitter.com/_/status/1096460733741707264)
# [cleverdevil] I'm very interested in the IPFS Known work.
# [cleverdevil] I currently have all of my site upload content stored on the local filesystem, which I don't like.
# [cleverdevil] Was thinking of moving it all to S3.
# [cleverdevil] But, IPFS is also appealing.
# [jgmac1106] It is going to be after we finish 1.0 work, but that is next in roadmap after
# [jgmac1106] Known is very interested in you doing IPFS work
# [cleverdevil] Heh, looks like Marcus has it under control 😉
# [jgmac1106] nope, just got off the phone with him, he said, "We can get Cleverdevil to do this"
# [jgmac1106] only one of those things is true
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plindner[m] I'm happy to have sparked the IPFS flame :) -- I believe that we need to get the various aligned movements working to reinforce each other. Having indieweb use IPFS or DAT is making one connection, there are many more we can choose to do and in the process build solidarity between our respective communities.
# plindner[m] And being a "person of (some) means" I'm willing to help fund it.
# [jgmac1106] and we can all collectively talk about how much we hate ActivityPub in whatever ever our favorite ActivitySteam is of the day
# [jgmac1106] yes thank for the Enterprise support, every Patreon or collective contribution I make is a long conversation in my house... $5 a month adds up. Sounds sad but true
# [jgmac1106] I am hoping to bring in grants....probably over $250k in Known Core development pending already
# plindner[m] That's amazing. Thanks!
# plindner[m] Re: activitypub, it's still better than closed systems. I've been a longtime Gargron supporter.
# plindner[m] Also he's moved off Medium onto his own Blog, so he might be interested in #indieweb features now:
# [jgmac1106] almost did micropub but folks talked him out of it....Federations need fuedal lords....but yeah Gargron has to put up with so much nonsense, no matter what he does someonew will declare him a nazi lover,
# [jgmac1106] He does have legit differences towards privacy and webmentions, but Known has most of the federation code already done for ActivityPub...and who is to say a worlkd driven by wesub, micropub, microsub, and webmentions won't be better? I don't need critical mass, my friends make mass because I hang with alchemists
# [jgmac1106] philosophical differences with webmentions I mean
# plindner[m] For now POSSE to Mastodon is working fine for me. I'm using social.coop to host since I can't touch AGPL, and I support and participate in the Platform Coop movement.
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# [jgmac1106] how are you not getting kicked off for POSSE, I wasn't allowed in social.coop since I own a for profit company I did not open source. I must be capitalist swine (truth my partner can't let his employer know how much outside work he does).
# [jgmac1106] but I am exploring if not co-ops (hard in edtech market) than atleast affinity partnerships and resell deals with ethical tech
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# plindner[m] I got lucky? I didn't realize there were rulez? Right now social.coop signups are closed because folks still need to get the governance side in order. I would think that Known platform would be a great solution to all those home-schooling coops that are out there.
# plindner[m] I mean even Google it in on that action: https://www.blog.google/outreach-initiatives/education/more-tools-homeschoolers/
# [jgmac1106] Speaking my language. Idea is closed federated system, class level, grade, school, discipline
# jeremycherfas !tell [edheil] there is also an Akismet plugin, but it needs watching like a hawk
# [jgmac1106] it ws the weirdest thread...
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@ken_bauer I moved my blog (using a self-hosted @withknown instance) about Smalltalk mostly but also how much of where I am is thanks to @bjorn_fb #OOPSLA and much more. Feedback welcome. https://known.kenbauer.me/2019/02/15/back-to-smalltalk (twitter.com/_/status/1096522535506726912)
# @ken_bauer I moved my blog (using a self-hosted @withknown instance) and posted about Smalltalk mostly but also how much of where I am is thanks to @bjorn_fb #OOPSLA and much more. Feedback welcome. https://known.kenbauer.me/2019/02/15/back-to-smalltalk (twitter.com/_/status/1096522693149630465)
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[ken] Hmm, so after I share my blog post on my Known instance to both Twitter and Mastodon (directly, so yes I am probably "doing it wrong"). I get a callback that "Ken Bauer replied to your post" via Twitter. Would it make sense to filter out my own replies to my own post here? Signed, newbie. Link to my post: https://known.kenbauer.me/2019/02/15/back-to-smalltalk
# [cleverdevil] Wow, a fellow Known fan and Smalltalk fan!
# [cleverdevil] Welcome, [ken].
# [cleverdevil] I am thinking that the reply notification from your syndication may be a Bridgy problem.
# [cleverdevil] Would be worth asking snarfed about it in #indieweb.
# [cleverdevil] I studied Computer Science at Georgia Tech in the late 90's and early 2000's, and did a lot of Squeak Smalltalk.
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# [jgmac1106] [kenbauer], yes happens to me, I fixed it before but can't remember what I did
# [jgmac1106] Can't wait to see how you hook up Flickr doing same thing as well
# [ken] Thanks [cleverdevil] , I should just click the buttons when posting to share it out. I have connections setup for LinkedIn (I almost never go there but am intrigued to see what connections I can run across there), Twitter and Mastodon. Experimenting. I jumped on Known when it was first released thanks to [benatwork] and Erin Jo. I had my students using Known then (and some still) and Ben was amazing helping us out with the RSS feeds and connecting th
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