#known 2019-06-20

2019-06-20 UTC
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[benatwork] That's my motivation too, for sure
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[benatwork] (The original Known logo I drew was Kn + Own)
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jgmac1106 that’s awesome!!
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jgmac1106 so many ways to play with it: KNOW your OWN
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jgmac1106 plindner++ for your efforts in keeping the colelctive organized and supported
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Loqi plindner has 4 karma over the last year
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jgmac1106 keep meaning to write a reply to [benatwork] IndieWeb business reply to zeldman’s piece…being a Small business owner who wanted his app built on Known (…but partners..with majority stakes), went after many same funders (indie.vc anyone who woudl listen), got disgusted when you dig under the shiny paint, and try to scrape by year after year on real revenue….in the labryinth of the edtech market…
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jgmac1106 …but then I realized I had no real answers or ideas….just believe in humanity, hang with good people, and hope good things happen
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jgmac1106 Alliteration, always. Answers?
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jgmac1106 Hey all here is a link to possible meetings, if nothing works we can try after the Summit…or just do a Known session at Summit: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/20/cho0sing-first-known-collective-meeting-knownchat
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mapkyca I'm mostly going to be in BST (GMT+1) or CEST (GMT+2) so none of those times really work. Weekday window is usually 18:30-21:30 BST/CEST. Weekends a little bit more wiggle room. Also wondering whether a youtube livestream/hangout might be the way to go, that way they can be recorded and viewed by those who can't make the meeting.
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jgmac1106 okay I will throw in some new times
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jgmac1106 we can do it after the summer, @mapkyca are you around during summit weekend? Could just propose a Known session, looks like Ben is RSVPd
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jgmac1106 I meant summit…if we need a weekend, little league ended for me so my weekends are waaay free
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mapkyca What weekend is the summit?
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jgmac1106 29-30
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mapkyca Ahh, so next weekend? Presumably that's going to be PST, right?
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jgmac1106 Might make the most sense for a kick off meeting just do a session, if not we can shoot for following
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jgmac1106 yeah that is the kicker EU especially if you are two hours past GMT
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jgmac1106 have fun traveling
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jgmac1106 !calc 18:30 BST to EDT
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Loqi 1:30:00 pm EDT | Thursday, June 20, 2019
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jgmac1106 !clas 18:30 BST to PDT
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jgmac1106 well I will change times and kick back two hours..and add the weekend after the summit…really I wanted to see if I could do a Doodle poll from Known
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jgmac1106 hey welcome [xavierroy] Are we looking for an escape from WordPress??? Never recruit in that room but come here….We coming for ya
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jgmac1106 !calc 18:30 BST to EDT
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Loqi 1:30:00 pm EDT | Thursday, June 20, 2019
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jgmac1106 oops
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jgmac1106 well I will just subtract the three hours
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mapkyca Cute, I didn't know loqi did timezone calculations
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aaronpk a lot more than that too :)
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jgmac1106 !calc 13:30 PDT to BST
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Loqi 4:30:00 pm EDT | Thursday, June 20, 2019
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mapkyca Morning PST I could probably join easily enough at weekends. Weekdays are a little more tricky...
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mapkyca So if it's a morning session at the summit I could join the hangout
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jgmac1106 We could do one on hackday
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jgmac1106 sessions on Sat start 13:30 PDT so it would be late for you
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aaronpk oops it thinks BST is an airport
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aaronpk !calc 13:30 PDT to British Time
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Loqi 9:30:00 pm BST | Thursday, June 20, 2019
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jgmac1106 thanks Aaron, so it be 9:30 Saturday night for you or we try for 9 PDT, Coffee, Carbs, and Known…would want to wait until Phil wakes up..all his ideas
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jgmac1106 !calc 9 PDT to British Time
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Loqi 5:00:00 pm BST | Thursday, June 20, 2019
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jgmac1106 mapkyca totally fine with a live stream though personally been trying to move off of YouTube and on to archive.org
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jgmac1106 ….if Google would ever send me my YouTube takeout…been waiting almost two weeks now
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mapkyca It's a suggestion, and we can always mirror the video wherever. I just like the idea of having a record - saves me having to take minutes
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aaronpk you're welcome to use our indieweb zoom account too
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jgmac1106 I still end up using Hangouts…usually its the only thing that ends up working, love Zoom but don’t have account
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jgmac1106 perfect just saw aaronpk note, we will do that with an etherpad
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mapkyca_ !tell jgmac1106 re your new dates, is the Sunday one UTC or PST? Should be able to make both of those...
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 !tell mapkyca Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles (3 hours EDT behind -7GMT) feel free to rsvp here: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/20/known-open-collective-kick-off-meeting
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi jgmac1106: mapkyca_ left you a message 37 minutes ago: re your new dates, is the Sunday one UTC or PST? Should be able to make both of those...
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jgmac1106 I should double check with Summit organizers but I don’t think they will mind a few of us peeling off from Sunday breakfast for a working meeting
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jgmac1106 let’s just help Plinder can make that time, I don’t think he is registed for Summit
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Loqi +1
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jgmac1106 but if you are gonna be around Sat and Sund @mapkyca you should grab a remote tix just so we can keep our numbers proper: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit
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mapkyca_ Done
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Loqi mapkyca_: jgmac1106 left you a message 14 minutes ago: Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles (3 hours EDT behind -7GMT) feel free to rsvp here: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/20/known-open-collective-kick-off-meeting
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mapkyca_ Lmk the hangout details
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jgmac1106 will do, will be Zoom once it is set up at Summit…if everyone can make it…if not we will do the following week
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[xavierroy] Ha ha
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mapkyca_ Can zoom meetings be recorded?
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jgmac1106 I mean [xaiverroy if you wanted a PHP CMS that just works with all the IndieWeb building blocks, be hard to look much further, and besides what will happen to WP when it goes full React…will anything work??? Do you want to wait to find out??? Okay espionage is over…nothing to see here folks
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jgmac1106 yes and livestreamed
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mapkyca_ sweet
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aaronpk jgmac1106[m]: we don't have the feature to livestream zoom to youtube, but the zoom meeting can be recorded and uploaded wherever later, and can also be joined by anyone without a zoom account
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aaronpk and mapkyca ^^
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crw neat bug: public bookmarks with emoji in their titles show up in the timeline when logged in, but not when logged out. will check/file an issue later today.
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[benatwork] That's super weird! Thanks for filing
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[jgmac1106] !tell Plinder want to make sure any date and time works for you. Think a transcontinental breakfast session be fun
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[mapkyca] @crw What database backend are you running? Might be https://github.com/idno/known/issues/2451
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crw !tell mapkyca Server version: 10.3.13-MariaDB-2 Ubuntu 19.04 - the emoji gets stored, as it will be displayed with the post when logged in. when not logged-in, the post doesn't get displayed at all even though it's marked public.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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