#known 2020-09-25

2020-09-25 UTC
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plindner[m] Would be interested if anyone has solutions for posting video. The plugin that's out there is unmaintained...
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[mapkyca] Videos are _hard_. I’ve got a transcoding plugin which… sortof… works, but right now the best available solution is to use something like bitchute and embed. Absent development resources to build this correctly, or money to build an indieweb youtube clone…
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[jgmac1106] so what is the difference between video where I can just use the video element in html and the transcoding that happens in Known
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[jgmac1106] meaning like a blank webpage video isn't hard , its just a video element and a src link
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[jgmac1106] plindner we did add the archive.org to iframe whitelist that is the IndieWeb version of YouTube...if you openly license
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[mapkyca] You can just use an image tag and link to a file for sure, _but_ to get that video to play across browsers, across bandwidths etc etc, you need to do some transcoding. This is especially true if you’re allowing folks to upload video in different formats - so e.g. if you upload a massive.avi, you’d need to transcode that into various container/video codec/audio codec combinations to play on safari, ios, etc etc etc
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[mapkyca] Its possible, but takes a lot of back end processing
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[mapkyca] Not to mention weird incantations and ritual offerings to the gods of ffmpeg and handbrake
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[mapkyca] This is where places like youtube and latakoo make their money
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[mapkyca] (well, not youtube, but it’s their USP)
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[jgmac1106] thx I never understood how transcoding, browsers, and the video element worked
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[jgmac1106] [mapkyca] the CompSci club at my university is happy to sponsor and run bug bounty of Known hackathon events
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jbove The Video topic is an interesting one. I've used YouTube with an embed just the other day. Does the Internet Archive Video upload to transcoding? I guess it matters to whom you are serving the video upload. Recent NAS systems provide transcoding too.
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jbove If the audience is limited, and you own a NAS like this, could this be used to publicly host and server the video?
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jbove And of course, you would be using your own Internet connection.
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[mapkyca] ↩️ Interesting. Needs some discussion on funds and how this would be run in terms of best directing efforts, but even if it results in a few more active developers that’d be a plus! cc [benatwork]
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[mapkyca] If someone wants to adopt my transcoding code that’d be nice - it works, but has rough edges. It’s also very fragile as things break when library versions change, and only works in debian (which is what my server runs)
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[mapkyca] Issue is video transcoding is resource intensive, and storage intensive, and there’s a lot of configuration nonsense you have to do just to get it working
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[mapkyca] In a previous life I worked on video transcoding solutions for news rooms, and this was always a headache
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plindner[m] I just want support for a video tag, a thumbnail and video category with a ui like the photo editor
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plindner[m] I created a regular post and did all that by hand but it was annoying
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aaronpk IMO providing basic support for a video tag where you just assume someone will upload an mp4 is Good Enough
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aaronpk that's gonna work in 99% of the cases
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aaronpk most people are making videos from their phones anyway, and uploading that file straight from a phone is fine
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aaronpk it's really not that hard anymore. most of the Scary Video Codec stuff is a thing of the past
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jbove In the case of the video tag, then all we need to check are the TinyMCE rules and options in Known. I need to have a look at these since it's a bit annoying how it filters out so much perfectly valid and useful HTML and CSS by default.
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plindner[m] What about top-level video (like photo)
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