#meta 2017-06-30

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gRegorLove I was skeptical about the -meta room before Leaders Summit, but I'm really liking it so far. Segmented wiki edits is cool. -dev feels more focused to me now.
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tantek I'm trying to find the time to write a short blog post (or two?) about IndieWeb Summit (maybe the mini half day Leaders Summit as well) - but it's going to be tough to get it done before newletter tomorrow
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Loqi tantek: gRegorLove left you a message 2 hours, 11 minutes ago: Let me know if these archiving steps sound good: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Past_Planning_Notes
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tantek gRegorLove++ ooh that's really good! Thank you!
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Loqi gregorlove has 5 karma in this channel (159 overall)
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aaronpk I'm also planning a blog post / email update about IWS and I guess I'm doing that first thing tomorrow morning
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tantek \o/
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Demos (+84) "dfn" (view diff)
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tantek what are 2017 demos?
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Loqi Demos for IndieWeb Summit 2017 took place June 25, 2017 https://indieweb.org/2017/Demos
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tantek :)
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tantek.com edited /2017 (-22) "make a separate photos page for embedding of general 2017 photos" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2017/Photos (+328) "stub with a photo from MozPDX kitchen, encouragement ot add more" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2017 (-105) "try an explicit /div, a bit of wiki gardening too" (view diff)
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tantek just verified that https://indieweb.org/2017 has a top level h-event with a photo inside so that should work (get picked up in the newsletter)
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www.svenknebel.de edited /events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club (+68) "/* Berlin */ update" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club (-169) "/* London */ Event added" (view diff)
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calumryan.com edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+121) "/* Blog posts */ London 1 year roundup post link added" (view diff)
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aaronpk wow i want to use this page for next year's IWS
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aaronpk https://worlddominationsummit.com/location
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schmarty haha, their official hotel recommendation is the Society Hotel, the hostel where I stayed.
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Loqi ahahaha
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schmarty world domination from shared accommodation
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schmarty this is a very good event site, though.
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loqi.me edited /2017/Demos (+107) "/* See Also */ new section" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /2017/Demos (+62) "aaronpk added "one-line summaries: http://wiki.zegnat.net/temp/iws-summary" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek when is hwc berlin?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/HWC_Berlin
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tantek what is hwc berlin?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/HWC_Berlin
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gRegorLove when is next-hwc?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2017-06-28 at Starbucks Sony-Center https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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gRegorLove updates
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tantek.com edited /2017/Schedule (+156) "move days overview to the bottom, so session videos are more obv from the top, compress Friday description a bit, move toc down" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Hm, it already was
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gRegorLove when is next-hwc?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2017-06-28 at Starbucks Sony-Center https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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gRegorLove Oh, h-event is wrong
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www.svenknebel.de edited /events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club (+0) "update date" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Too fast for me, sknebel :)
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tantek aaronpk do you know why the newsletter is not picking up the 2017 photo?
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aaronpk it wasn't marked up right when it was last generated correct?
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tantek now I'm not sure
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aaronpk i can regenerate it right now
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tantek ok
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aaronpk hm still not there
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tantek yeah odd. but it's in the h-event parsed via pin13!
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aaronpk ohhhhh
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aaronpk # don't download the file if it's more than 5mb (twitter's limit)
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tantek heh
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aaronpk there it is!
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aaronpk pretty sure that animated gif is going to take precedence over all the photos for the tweet
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tantek no animated gif of IWS?
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aaronpk you're killing me
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sknebel aaronpk: on my strange news submission, for some reason x-ray doesn't report a name for my post
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-indieweb-summit.gif]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-indieweb-summit.gif"
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aaronpk sknebel: i'll look in a sec. working on photos rn
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aaronpk can someone plz link this up to the proper places? https://indieweb.org/images/b/b6/2017-indieweb-summit.gif
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aaronpk is scrambling to finish all the things before the newsletter
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tantek on it
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tantek LOLOLOL that wins
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tantek :dying:
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tantek.com edited /2017/Photos (+129) "day 1 static photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2017 (-6) "/* Photos */ giffing it up" (view diff)
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gRegorLove lolol at snarfed in that gif
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tantek crosslegged guy with the just the slight finger motion wins. solid unaffected straightface
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sknebel aaronpk: fixed it
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aaronpk what was the problem?
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Loqi The problem is that when you ask what is the problem, you need to be more specific https://indieweb.org/problem
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aaronpk :P shh loqi
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tantek :D
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gRegorLove XD
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sknebel I'd call it a logic mismatch in x-ray and indienews
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aaronpk i cannot figure out how julie makes her pictures look so good
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sknebel indienews relies on the name property
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sknebel but x-ray deletes the name if it is == the content
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sknebel which was the case for my post
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aaronpk i need to just update indienews to use xray
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sknebel (cause it was a note, so "e-content p-name" on the same div)
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sknebel it does use xray, that was the problem
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[cleverdevil] Did we ever post the animated group photo from IWS?
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aaronpk *just* did
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sknebel I turned it into a blogpost and misspelled the content text, now it went through
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sknebel now I can change it back and never ever send a webmention for it again :P
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tantek [cleverdevil]: https://indieweb.org/2017#Photos
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[cleverdevil] Nice
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aaronpk sknebel: LOL
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schmarty ? that photo
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schmarty Amit's dead stare is truly excellent
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tantek amit++
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gRegorLove My IWS post is becoming more of a community appreciation post than a "what happened" post.
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gRegorLove Which is fine
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tantek totally fine
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sknebel aaronpk: filed indienews issue with all the detail I have
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sknebel (aka my original markup and all the code I skimmed in the 10 minutes that looked relevant)
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aaronpk ?
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sknebel (I'm getting surprisingly good at reading PHP from indieweb-related bughunting ;))
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ben_thatmustbeme https://w3c.social/@dissolve/69207
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Loqi [Ben Roberts] ben.thatmustbe.me <does this get translated to a proper link? https://ben.thatmustbe.me/ < does this? want to just test this quick to see if just adding webmention sending to mastodon would do all of the federation TO indieweb that is needed
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ben_thatmustbeme so typing 'https:// works, still can't reply to specific posts, hmm
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ben_thatmustbeme oops
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aaronpk -> #dev
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aaronpk ? ✨ PHOTOS ✨ ? https://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/sets/72157683338925261
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aaronpk not as good as juliie's
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aaronpk but they are there
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schmarty Photos! \o/
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aaronpk notices "apprentice" on https://indieweb.org/2017/Berlin#RSVP
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tantek soo where is that copy pasta coming from
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tantek maybe worth emailing joschi about to get to the bottom of things
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tantek maybe we need mediawiki templates for our user pages
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tantek "This user prefers to use IRC/Slack/Email", "This user avoids realtime chat because it's too distracting", "This user avoids email because tl;dr" etc.
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aaronpk lol
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aaronpk sounds like little badges?
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Zegnat Shouldn’t your personal site show people exactly how to contact you? ;)
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aaronpk what are communication preferences?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "communication preferences" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat checks if he ordered his communication channels right
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tantek Zegnat, indeed it should, that's /contact
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Zegnat I might have to switch IRC and email around.
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Zegnat Other than that I think my communication channels are in the right order
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gRegorLove What is contact?
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Loqi communication in the context of the indieweb refers to using your personal website as a starting point and potentially way for people to contact you https://indieweb.org/contact
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-06-30-facebook-create-ui-new-feature.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-06-30-facebook-create-ui-new-feature.png"
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schmarty woah! loqi now includes a link to newly uploaded files??
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aaronpk \o/
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schmarty aaronpk++ nice loqi upgrade
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aaronparecki.com edited /2017/Berlin (-2) "/* RSVP */ remove "apprentice" text, optional add to wiki" (view diff)
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snarfed aaronpk++ too
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snarfed for extreme patience in #indieweb right now
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Zegnat wonders if we should try German next time
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aaronpk any more wrap-up posts yet?
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[chrisaldrich] Or add languages to /irc_people?
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sebsel Zegnat and I jokingly started using #indieweb-nl since IWS. #indieweb-de might be more useful.
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Zegnat What languages does Zegnat speak?
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Zegnat Loqi, just fetch it from my site!
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aaronpk looks at Zegnat's h-card
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aaronpk lols at "weight-at-birth"
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Zegnat That was inspired by GWG
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aaronpk *whew* got that done in time!
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ben_thatmustbeme weight-at-birth? lol
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Zegnat People still finding new stuff on my h-card? :p
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Zegnat I think I have added a new thing almost every day since IWS. But that is a topic for -chat
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sebsel there is a lot to find
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Photos (+61) "dfn" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk++ for sending out the wrap-up email!
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aaronpk woo
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tantek subject: IndieWeb Summit Wrap-Up!
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tantek confirmed received
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aaronpk also on my website of course https://aaronparecki.com/2017/06/30/11/iws2017-wrap
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tantek sweet video thumbnails in gmail
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] IndieWeb Summit 2017 Wrap-Up!
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aaronpk oh yeah i forgot gmail does that!
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tantek yep - saw it on your website first :)
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tantek just commenting on the presentation in email
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/NYC2/indorsements (+51) "video link at start time" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/NYC2/Schedule (+70) "/* Saturday 2016-08-27 */ play link for indorsements" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/NYC2/serverless (+44) "when, minor formatting, attendee templates" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Having a hard time figuring out which session this is. GWG, tantek? https://youtu.be/Z-QXKtLpuSc?t=7m11s schedule grid: https://indieweb.org/2016/NYC2/Schedule#Saturday_2016-08-27
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gRegorLove Doesn't seem to be newbie questions like I'd expect from the grid
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GWG I think it was.
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GWG It was nearly a year ago
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gRegorLove Ah, yep, it is
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/NYC2/n00bie (+75) "video, formatting" (view diff)