#meta 2017-06-29

2017-06-29 UTC
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tantek I mean I didn't record any vidyo in the main room
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aaronpk next time we should have you record Vidyo for the main room as well just as a backup. we lost the beginning of j12t's demo because wirecast crashed :(
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tantek ok good call
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tantek can you add that to /2017/Planning ?
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gRegorLove Is Loqi running latest php-mf2? (0.3.2)?
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aaronpk should be https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay
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Loqi [aaronpk] XRay: X-Ray returns structured data from any URL
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aaronparecki.com edited /2017/Planning (+206) "/* Notes afterwards */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Planning (+44) "/* Notes afterwards */ group photo day 2" (view diff)
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gRegorLove I asked bc Loqi's picking up the img src despite blank alt. XRay seems to get it right, though.
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gRegorLove who is gregorlove
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Loqi gRegor Morrill (photo) gRegor Morrill is a software developer living in Bellingham, Washington. Pronouns: he/him/his https://gregorlove.com Elsewhere: https://g.twimg.com/dev/documentation/image/Twitter_logo_blue_48.png@gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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aaronpk well that's odd. Loqi is just using xray
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tantek making my way to MozSF!
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tantek bbiab
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gRegorLove Maybe Xray cache
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aaronpk this is right? https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Findieweb.org%2FUser%3AGregorlove.com
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gRegorLove Yeah, no Twitter img showing in the summary
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aaronpk ohhh different part of loqi
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aaronpk the "who is" feature, not the link-preview feature
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gRegorLove Aha
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gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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aaronpk who is gRegorLove?
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Loqi gRegor Morrill (photo) gRegor Morrill is a software developer living in Bellingham, Washington. Pronouns: he/him/his https://gregorlove.com Elsewhere: @gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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aaronpk updated!
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gRegorLove gives Loqi a cookie
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Loqi runs away from the cookie
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gRegorLove who is gregorlove
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Loqi gRegor Morrill (photo) gRegor Morrill is a software developer living in Bellingham, Washington. Pronouns: he/him/his https://gregorlove.com Elsewhere: @gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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gRegorLove aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 4 karma in this channel (1363 overall)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:Infobox_person/doc (+195) "note p-summary usage for Loqi" (view diff)
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gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/Template:Infobox_person gives a cleaner summary now if you wrap it in a p-summary on wiki user pages.
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gRegorLove who is aaronpk
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Aaronparecki.com
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gRegorLove Well, with an explicit p-summary around it. Not sure if the template should add that; it's a hack to get a p-summary of the h-card in the top-level h-entry
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[grantcodes] Has someone been messing with the homepage? I am currently seeing a banner for "IndieWebCamp LA 2016: November 5, 2016! "
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aaronpk ...banner?
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[grantcodes] And some broken stuff.
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aaronpk did you change your theme back to the old one?
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gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/Special:Preferences should have "Vector" selected
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aaronpk old theme: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=indieweb
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aaronpk new: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=Vector
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[grantcodes] I'm sure that's it, did everyone not get changed by default?
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aaronpk logged-out view is still the correct one
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[grantcodes] Yeah, all good now, but maybe the old ones should be deleted? Or have a warning?
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aaronpk yeah probably should delete the old themes now
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tantek twitter did just change their UI - so maybe the scrapers need updating?
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tantek.com edited /2017/Schedule (+204) "/* Afterparty */ karaoke photo" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+98) "/* Blog posts */ add b'more" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+181) "/* Photos */ baltimore animated photo" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club (+175) "/* Baltimore MD */ happening" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-06-28-homebrew-website-club (+121) "/* Photos */ SF photo" (view diff)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2017-07-12-homebrew-website-club (-15) "/* Virtual European Time */ update with new service to test" (view diff)
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Zegnat gRegorLove++ for the inspiration on adding pronouns and personal URL to my user page summary!
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Loqi gregorlove has 4 karma in this channel (158 overall)
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sebsel Hm, ben_thatmustbeme did set -t on this channel, but not on any of the other channels.
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sebsel I recall there was discussion about only giving voiced people the right to change the topic
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sebsel but there is no mode for that it seems.
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sebsel Maybe !topic, so Loqi can filter the voiced people?
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sknebel not sure if chanserv can already do stuff like that, but yeah, own bot would work as well
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Zegnat You can definitely ask chanserv to change the topic for you, but I am not sure how granular the settings within chanserv are for allowing people to use that
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Zegnat i.e. chanserv is the “bot” in that case
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sebsel "11:58 -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation."
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sebsel So it does check that
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Zegnat Hmm you might be able to change the template (HELP TEMPLATE) for VOP to include +t (HELP FLAGS) and then everyone with +v could ust the ChanServ TOPIC command to change the topic.
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Zegnat Maybe.
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Zegnat is not pro at ChanServ
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ben_thatmustbeme sebsel: can you not set topin in other channels?
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ben_thatmustbeme everyone should be able to
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aaronpk i don't see anything wrong with allowing everyone to change the topic
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aaronpk i just forgot to do the -t thing in the other channels yesterday when we were testing
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sebsel well, only this channel has +cn, the other +cnt
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sebsel but maybe I can?
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aaronpk just did it for the rest of the channels
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sebsel It worked!
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aaronpk \o/
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ben_thatmustbeme yay
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ben_thatmustbeme you beat me to it aaronpk
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aaronpk thanks to the new reference you added on /irc : )
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[eddie] is this channel the right channel to discuss wiki? I know customizing the theme isn’t the best thing because I know that’s caused upgrade issues in the past. Is there a ready-made theme that is responsive? Attempting to use the wiki on an iPad in multi-tasking mode and it’s not very usable as it’s a standard page all the way zoomed out. Lots of pinch-to-zoom
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Zegnat This would be the right channel to discuss that, yes
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aaronpk [eddie]: the wiki is using a relatively old version of the Vector theme. do you know if the current Vector theme is better about being responsive? (the default mediawiki theme)
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[eddie] Ohh i don’t. Let me see if I can find a site with the default one. i’ll check media wiki
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[eddie] ohhhh if it’s the mediawiki.org theme than yes
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[eddie] MUCH better
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aaronpk we're close to being able to upgrade the wiki
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[eddie] Sweet. Sounds like that problem will take care of itself with the wiki upgrade then ?
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[eddie] ?
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aaronpk i just updated my dev copy of the wiki
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aaronpk i remember there were a few things wrong but it was mostly workinig
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aaronpk anyone want to poke around until they find the problems and then document what's the issue?
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aaronpk http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/Main_Page (link is live only when my laptop is on)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club
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aaronpk In particular look for pages where we do tricky mediawiki things or use any extensions
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ben_thatmustbeme other than the dates on the left nav looking a bit wonky, i can't find anything broken
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[eddie] At the bottom Wiki Resources is a bit funky: Go Secure
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[eddie] <private>* Log out</private>
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aaronpk ah that is a missing extension
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aaronpk i thought there was something broken with some mediawiki template we were using
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[eddie] Is the theme on this URL the updated theme? It doesn’t seem to match mediawiki.org
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aaronpk oh this is last year's, let me update again
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[eddie] Ohhhh gotcha :thumbsup:
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[eddie] It wasn’t responsive and my heart broke a little ?
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[eddie] ?
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[eddie] This how to markup area looks a bit weird. Although it seems better than the actual site: http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/bookmark#How
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aaronpk now everything is broken
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[eddie] oh no!
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aaronpk alright... now it's running the latest version
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aaronpk the indieauth plugin will need an update
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aaronpk that's not gonna be fun
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aaronpk i don't know what's going on with the event template here: http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/Events
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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[eddie] Hmm odd. It’s not going into responsive mode like mediawiki.org
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aaronpk darn! maybe mediawiki.org had to do something special
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[eddie] oh no!! they have a mobile version
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[eddie] eww ?
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[eddie] I didn’t notice the domain changed on me
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aaronpk oh
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[eddie] well maybe there is an extension or something that activates that mode?
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dougbeal|iOS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
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aaronpk aha there's an experimental responsive flag https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector
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aaronpk try now
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[eddie] better
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[eddie] definitely better
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[eddie] There are some glitches but I don’t know how much of that is the responsive and how much is just the wiki since you updated
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[eddie] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
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[eddie] Is what Wikipedia and Wikimedia are using
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Planning (+3466) "archive initial planning notes" (view diff)
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tantek what the heck in today's logs
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www.aaron-gustafson.com created /Template:AaronGustafson (+135) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">{{sparkline|https://www.aaron-gustafson.com/i/og-logo.png}} [[User:Www.aaron-gustafson.com|AaronGustafson]]</span>"" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:citation/doc (+538) "add archiveurl to examples" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Template:citation/doc (+28) "fix adactio archiveurl" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017 (+92) "past tense, u-uid, archived livestream, directed to schedule for individual videos" (view diff)
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gRegorLove !tell tantek Let me know if these archiving steps sound good: https://indieweb.org/Planning#Past_Planning_Notes
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next