#meta 2017-09-04

2017-09-04 UTC
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tantek hmm - I'm having trouble creating a POSSE copy (manually) on FB
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tantek "Something went wrong, please try again later."
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tantek been happening for a few minutes now
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tantek guess I'll screenshot it
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-09-03-fb-dup-event-something-wrong.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-09-03-fb-dup-event-something-wrong.png"
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tantek apparently it's happened before: https://indieweb.org/create#FB_Something_went_wrong
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tantek wow and after a few tries I got a "Warning: Please Slow Down" (!!!)
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tantek "It looks like you’re using this feature in a way it wasn’t meant to be used. Please slow down, or you could be blocked from using it."
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-09-03-fb-warning-slow-down.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-09-03-fb-warning-slow-down.png"
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tantek oh no did I create it multiple times - looks like it worked at least once despite the errors
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tantek oh crap it created it like 10 times
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tantek wtf
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tantek goes to delete like 9 events
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-09-03-fb-error-wrong-created-dupes.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-09-03-fb-error-wrong-created-dupes.png"
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tantek https://indieweb.org/create#FB_Went_Wrong_But_Created_Event ?
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-09-06-homebrew-website-club (+161) "/* San Francisco */ link indie & FB events, add self" (view diff)
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tantek well I think that's cleaned up
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tantek schmarty++ for this week's podcast - great weekend listening!
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Loqi schmarty has 3 karma in this channel (31 overall)
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GWG I have to add that to my catcher.
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tantek !tell schmarty what do you think of adding "… and have a code of conduct" to the podcast announcements about indieweb events? e.g. "All indieweb events are volunteer run and have a code of conduct."
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sl007 !tell sebsel We have to chromecast screens at the festival area looping IndieWeb presentations (based on Joshis slides with a node "shoutbox" attached [irc, twitter, webmention etc]) - Q : Would it make sense to "combine" Dortmund Micropub and Websub demo - I mean by a common "subject" ? Also: What do you do thursday?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sl007 ^to === two
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jkphl.is edited /events/2017-09-13-homebrew-website-club (+558) (view diff)
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sebsel morning #meta!
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message 1 day, 2 hours ago: - Awake ;) Good morning. Would it make sense to "combine" DO Micropub and Websub demo - I mean by a common "subject" ?
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message 2 hours, 1 minute ago: We have to chromecast screens at the festival area looping IndieWeb presentations (based on Joshis slides with a node "shoutbox" attached [irc, twitter, webmention etc]) - Q : Would it make sense to "combine" Dortmund Micropub and Websub demo - I mean by a common "subject" ? Also: What do you do thursday?
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sebsel sl007 I cannot combine a demo of Micropub and WebSub, because my site only supports Micropub. :(
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sebsel I don't know what the second !tell means... is it an idea?
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sebsel I'll add my Chromecast to the stuff-to-bring-list.
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sl007 sebsel - no I do the WebSub (just about the "subject" what we demo) - the second is nearly setup - I'll push it to github soon
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sebsel What do you mean with '"subject"'
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Zegnat Remote is going to be IRC?
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sebsel Zegnat It will depend on the Wifi-connection... I think we'll just record all the things.
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sebsel The IWS-setup is probably not possible ;)
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Zegnat Fine with me, easier to hang in IRC while at pride than in a conference call
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schmarty Good morning, meta
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Loqi schmarty: tantek left you a message 8 hours ago: what do you think of adding "… and have a code of conduct" to the podcast announcements about indieweb events? e.g. "All indieweb events are volunteer run and have a code of conduct."
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schmarty !tell tantek mentioning the code of conduct is a great idea. Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sl007 Zegnat - there will be google HangoutOnAir and IRC
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sl007 T - 4 days :: There are currently six seats left https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE - Festival for journalism http://campfirefestival.org
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emresokullu.com edited /2017/Istanbul () "(-2328) /* IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017 */" (view diff)
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EmreSokullu it's in native language, I hope that's okay.
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EmreSokullu re: https://indieweb.org/2017/Istanbul
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emresokullu.com edited /2017/Istanbul (-1) "/* Program */" (view diff)
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sl007 EmreSokullu - apart from that I can't understand anything : awesome !
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EmreSokullu Modeled it after Berlin; first day learning sessions, second day hack & break.
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sl007 I am doing https://indieweb.org/2017/Dortmund ? CAMPFIRE - Festival for journalism — Do you know https://ozguruz.org/tr/ozguruz/ ?
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sl007 !tell sebsel Not sure about the microphone setup. Do you've got an USB mic. ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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EmreSokullu Inaccessible :) can see it with VPN only. Yes I heard about it before.
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EmreSokullu Dortmund. Nice. Why ozguruz?
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tantek !tell GWG good morning, this is your daily reminder as a co-organizer to RSVP to https://2017.indieweb.org/nyc :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi tantek: schmarty left you a message 4 hours, 14 minutes ago: mentioning the code of conduct is a great idea. Thanks!
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Loqi IndieWebCamp New York
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sebsel
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Loqi sebsel: sl007 left you a message 55 minutes ago: Not sure about the microphone setup. Do you've got an USB mic. ?
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sebsel sl007 I only have a USB audio card, to have an extra audio output/input. But it's cheap.
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sl007 EmreSokullu The Festival for Dortmund is organized by their "head agency"
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sl007 correctiv.org (but that's in german)
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tantek I'm thinking of creating some subpages for some of the content on /create
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tantek in particular either for /create-event or maybe /duplicate-event
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tantek any thoughts on what granularity to use when moving a large chunk of content
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tantek ?
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tantek even just random opinions welcome
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tantek background: a large portion of /create is now https://indieweb.org/create#Facebook_Events
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sl007 sebsel - the thing is if I would buy one - where and what has good sound?
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GWG I am going to, promise. I added myself to the leader section
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 13 minutes ago: good morning, this is your daily reminder as a co-organizer to RSVP to https://2017.indieweb.org/nyc :)
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sebsel I don't know sl007, I have no experience with sound.
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sebsel tantek what about following something like /create/Facebook, and have a "Main article: create Facebook" link right above a summary of what it is now on the main page? Then just move all the content to the new page?
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sebsel We use slashes for events, like 2017/Dortmund, but it might make sense for this as well?
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EmreSokullu tantek: perhaps a separate page for each silo? though, facebook seems to be dominating the whole examples section so far.
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tantek sebsel, two things, 1. I really dislike "/" subpages (except for dates / events) as it starts to look very programmery and not user-friendly and 2. I think it's bad to do silo-centric pages
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tantek EmreSokullu: we have separate top level pages for each silo already like /Facebook
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sebsel I think it looks organised, but yeah, maybe only from a programmers point of view.
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EmreSokullu ok I see now. /silos has the full list too.
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sebsel Why no silo-centric pages?
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tantek sebsel not "no" but rather, dislike
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sebsel Hm, okay
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tantek sebsel - better to focus on a feature than a silo
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sebsel But we focus on a feature on the silo, right?
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sebsel That's why a summary on the feature page, with a link to "more documentation here".
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tantek no, we focus on the feature as a whole, silos are only background research, to inform how we can build better features for our own sites
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sebsel I agree on that! But wouldn't moving the silo-documentation to a separate page help that?
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sebsel Then the original page is more about the feature.
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tantek the point is it always makes sense to create /feature BEFORE /silo-feature
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tantek but that page doesn't exist yet
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tantek hence my original question, first things first
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tantek "in particular either for /create-event or maybe /duplicate-event"
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tantek thinking about a silo specific page is premature before we create the generic feature page
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sebsel I agree with that.
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sebsel create-event is a combination of things you can put on /event or /create
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sebsel But aren't you filling /create-event with Facebook-info-only first, either way?
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sebsel (I'm off for now, hope other people have thought on it too :) )
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tantek yes /create-event would likely have mostly FB event creation UI - because that's what's been documented so far - however, having it be at that level at least encourages documentation of other event creation UIs (e.g. indieweb event creation UIs)
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tantek lol after all that I'm only now realizing there is already a https://indieweb.org/create_event page
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tantek alright - moved over the silo event create stuff (FB and gCal) from /create to /create_event
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tantek that'll do for now
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sl007 sebsel - found an xlr to usb device nearby - so basically livestreaming should work
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adactio.com edited /events/2017-09-06-homebrew-website-club (+35) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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sebastianlasse.de edited /Events (+409) "/* September */ added Istanbul" (view diff)
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sl007 EmreSokullu tip: make sure to add IWC/HWC events to https://indieweb.org/events (have just done this for Istanbul). Now it will appear in the eMail http://indieweb.org/newsletter and at the Dortmund festival monitors it would show up under "next IWCs" …
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