#meta 2017-11-03

2017-11-03 UTC
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[tantek]
Any news from manton on IWC Austin venue?
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Loqi
[tantek]: sknebel left you a message 2 hours, 30 minutes ago: even of the people on-site not everyone has time and we don't have a remote-friendly space, so it will just a bunch of us meeting up it seems
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[tantek]
And did I see that aaronpk has booked flights?
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webgefrickel.de
edited /2017/Berlin/Guest_List (+305) "/* Participants */"
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vanderven.se martijn
edited /2017/Berlin (+488) "/* Schedule */ Meet-up Day 0"
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edited /2017/Berlin (+16) "/* Day 0 (Friday) */ Attending IWC Berlin day 0"
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tantek
good morning #indieweb
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tantek
-meta
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tantek
how are things in Berlin? any leaders meeting up somewhere with wifi?
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calumryan
hi tantek don’t think that’s happening, meeting for drinks and food tonight I think. Can note anything discussed but probably not suitable wifi for a stream.
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GWG
What's going on with remote for tomorrow?
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Zegnat
sknebel and I just arrived at Vodkabar for meeting with any interested early arrivers.
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Zegnat
IWC pre meet-up has done dinner and moved to the vodkabar for drinks.
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tantek
cool - any new leader insights?
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tantek
realizes it's newsletter day
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tantek
wow lots of changed wiki pages!
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tantek
only two photos out of 6 HWCs? that seems odd
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tantek
did all those HWC actually happen? Nurnberg? Brighton, Frederick?
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tantek
anyone on vHWC get a screenshot of participants?
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tantek
hmm we didn't capture the Gothamist etc. site-death this week
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tantek
that seems significant especially because it was so sudden and unannounced
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[eddie]
Frederick was a party of 1 ? So I didn't bother with a photo. With the holidays coming up, and not gaining very much traction I'm gonna suspend the Frederick meetings until I can meet more people in the area to be able to stabilize it a bit more. Until then, I'll just continue my occasional trips into Baltimore to see schmarty and the gang
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[eddie]
I'm gonna move it into the "Needs Restarting" category on the HWC page
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schmarty
[eddie]: we'll be glad to have you!!
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[eddie]
Thanks schmarty!
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schmarty
we can talk about IWC Baltimore... :}
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[eddie]
:thumbsup:
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[eddie]
That would be awesome
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tantek
[eddie] sounds like a good plan, thanks for keep up with it!
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tantek
hey schmarty, with so many podcasts in the newsletter itself, does it makes sense, or is there a way to make the newsletter itself a podcast?
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tantek
can I subscribe to the newsletter in a podcast player and have it auto-play all the audio in the newsletter in the order that they're in in the newsletter?
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tantek
because that seems like it would be useful
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aaronpk
actually yeah
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aaronpk
subscribe to this in a podcast app https://huffduffer.com/tags/indieweb
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schmarty
oh that is interesting.
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schmarty
well, you can subscribe to all feeds tagged indieweb on huffduffer
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schmarty
sorry, not feeds.
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schmarty
^^ that one that aaronpk posted.
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tantek
so that's the same source as the newsletter, I get that
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schmarty
seems like there could, in theory, be a way to pump the newsletter through a script or service of some kind of and spit out a podcast feed.
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tantek
I wonder if it would be worth a short phrase/sentence of description under the headings in the newsletter to indicate that
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tantek
for better discovery
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aaronpk
that seems easy enough
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tantek
schmarty - yeah - or I wonder what you'd have to tweak in its RSS to not even require a separate script/service
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schmarty
hmm, like including them in the feed for the audio edition?
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tantek
that's another way to do it perhaps
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schmarty
i am not sure i understand the use case yet
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tantek
do we have a github project for the newsletter to track issues / suggestions?
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tantek
schmarty, the use-case is auto-play of all that podcasts from that week
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tantek
instead of having to play them one at a time
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tantek
in particular, auto-play all in one sitting.
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aaronpk
that sounds like a podcast client setting
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tantek
and on Friday when the newsletter is released
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tantek
rather than the trickle of that huffduffer tag when they're added
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tantek
aaronpk: just for this feed
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tantek
same reason people like getting a digest once a week
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tantek
you don't need to configure your email client for digest emails to "just work"
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schmarty
heh. i will be summarizing those microcast episodes in the audio edition...
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tantek
with clips?
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schmarty
(difficulty: i'm out at a coffee shop w/o my usual headphones)
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schmarty
i like the idea of clips, but for now just summaries that i will read
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tantek
aaronpk is the this-week-generator in github?
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Loqi
[indieweb] this-week: Weekly digest of IndieWebCamp activity
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Loqi
[indieweb] this-week: Weekly digest of IndieWebCamp activity
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://github.com/indieweb/this-week" to the "See Also" section of /this-week-in-the-indieweb
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schmarty
dang this is gonna be a hefty newsletter
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tantek
lol echo '<h2 id="recent-events">Recent Events</h2>';
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tantek
ok I see what I need to do
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tantek
classic™ PHP
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aaronpk
this is very low tech
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tantek
I'm down with that
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aaronpk
the way it sends the email is it replaces the "rss feed" every week, and mailchimp is set to email out when a new item appears in the RSS feed
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aaronpk
it wouldn't be hard to have this also generate a separate RSS feed for just the items in the podcast section, so that you could subscribe to that in a podcast player
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tantek
can a single RSS item have multiple enclosures?
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aaronpk
i doubt it
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tantek
I mean, XML allows it >:D
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tantek
what's the worst that could happen? crash someone's RSS consuming code?
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tantek
enclosure overflow
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aaronpk
i always forget how to find the itunes docs on their podcast rss format
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tantek
isn't it just <enclosure>URL</enclosure>
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tantek.com
edited /Events (+19) "move HWC to recent Nov"
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aaronpk
doesn't say what happens with multiple enclosures
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tantek
hahahaha that's one of the funnier js;dr I have seen
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Loqi
awesome
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tantek
that deserves a screenshot
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tantek
do you see the "Lorem ipsum" near the bottom?
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tantek
someone was slacking
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tantek
yeah no that's not Latin according to Google Translate
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tantek
js;dr captured. back to some minor newsletter tweaks to see if aaronpk agrees :)
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tantek
lol schmarty you and I both wore same tshirt and stood in same spot in the photo: https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/926573463275323392
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schmarty
tantek: i noticed that, too, haha! that reminds me, i should probably order another shirt sometime soon. mine is showing some wear.
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aaronpk
i still have a couple from the first order
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tantek
are there any more to order? I thought it was sold out?
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tantek
o rly
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tantek
what sizes?
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aaronpk
hm lemme check
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tantek
let's see if I can put together a pull-request of multiple files online
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aaronpk
3 small, 2 large, but the white is slightly misaligned. there are another 1 small and 1 large that are good prints.
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tantek
just realized he asked the same question twice and just didn't see the answer from aaronpk the first time. sorry!
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tantek
pull request created for anyone who is interested in minor proposed tweaks to the newsletter: https://github.com/indieweb/this-week/pull/7
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Loqi
[tantek] #7 short "From" context phrases for each section for sources
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tantek
I like brief inline docs (instead of longer separate docs), discoverability, and lowering the barrier from reading to contributing
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tantek
aaronpk, schmarty in particular your opinions
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aaronpk
nice, i like it
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tantek
(all done from the GitHub web UI)
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tantek
I have no idea how to verify that it works
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tantek
aww no meme yet :)
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Loqi
[aaronpk] #2 "I have no idea"
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tantek
whoa aaronpk I saw that merge happen when the page updated as I was looking at it!
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tantek
what is real time comments?
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Loqi
real-time comments are the display of comments on a view of a post (typically on its permalink) as they are received by the post (presumably via webmention), without needing any explicit user reloading, refreshing, or any other tapping/clicking etc https://indieweb.org/real-time_comments
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tantek
we need to bring that back
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aaronpk
yeah github realtime is really good
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tantek
I really want to do that as an indieweb demo with audience participation
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tantek
aaronpk is there any way to see what it would generate without running the whole work flow?
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aaronpk
not really
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aaronpk
i checked the files for syntax errors tho and it all passes
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tantek
and I'm pretty good at typing valid HTML off the top of my head
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aaronpk
it was a small enough change and the github diff shows exactly what changed, i'm sure it's fine :)
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aaronpk
we'll find out next thursday
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