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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin (-122) "past tense dfn" (view diff)
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gRegorLove aaronpk: webmention session video doesn't seem to be listed on the youtube channel. Link I have on https://indieweb.org/2017/Austin/webmention is incorrect.
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/pay (+22) "videoduration template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Schedule (+37) "/* Saturday 2017-12-09 */ payments video" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/audio (+34) "videoduration template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Schedule (+33) "/* Saturday 2017-12-09 */ audio video. no, like video of the audio session" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/serendipity (+38) "videoduration template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Schedule (+25) "/* Saturday 2017-12-09 */ serendipity video" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/post-types (+33) "videoduration template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Schedule (+22) "/* Saturday 2017-12-09 */ post-types video" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+38) "videoduration template" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Schedule (+28) "/* Sunday 2017-12-10 */ demos video" (view diff)
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gRegorLove schmarty: Nice touch on noting session start/stop in some of the videos. Made it a bit easier to figure out the durations.
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aaronpk gRegorLove: I think something went wrong with the stream during that session and it stopped or never started in the first place
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aaronpk i'm super bummed too cause I thought it was a pretty good tutorial, and I was even screen sharing so the screen would hve been very clear on the recording
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aaronpk is making a bunch of changes to the structure of the Baltimore event pages based on feedback from this weekend
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Baltimore (-432) "/* Schedule */ remove probably wrong duplicated times from main baltimore page" (view diff)
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Bummer. I thought I jumped over to watch it briefly, but maybe that was micropub session
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gRegorLove Yeah, I bet it was. Didn't realize till later room 2 was separate videos for each session
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aaronpk I think it was streaming for a little while, like i'm *pretty* sure I did actually click the start button, but then when I went back to the window at the end it said "start session"
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aaronpk I should have followed my own rule and done a local screen recording too
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aaronpk I do have a portable audio recorder version of the audio, but no video so probably not that useful
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk indieweb tutorials in the style of bob ross
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aaronpk thanks gwg
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aaronpk this is going to happen now
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gRegorLove Hahah
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Loqi awesome
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gRegorLove haaapy webmentions
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Projects (+101) "please add notes" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-aaron.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-aaron.jpg"
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Baltimore/Sessions () "(-2327) new session grid page format, with only the session grid, including specific start/end times. 45-minute sessions with 10 minute break." (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Baltimore (-70) "/* Summary */ don't need to link to this page" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Didn't we decide around /2016 to call day 2 something other than Hack Day? I don't remember what it was.
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gRegorLove "Create, Hack, Demo!" on /2016#Schedule
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Baltimore () "(-704) remove duplicate info, move schedule before transport info, link to existing pages when available" (view diff)
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tantek gRegorLove: yeah
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tantek keep making it more broadly inclusive for creatives
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gRegorLove Agreed
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+406) "/* January */ Baltimore!" (view diff)
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aaronpk yep
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aaronpk tho I haven't found a term I feel comfortable saying out loud in person
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aaronpk "creator day" sounds awkward
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2017 (+24525) "Archive 2017-04 ... 2017-09" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Events () "(-24525) /* 2017 */ 2017-04....2017-09 now archived" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Create and Collaborate Day?
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+52) "add aaronpk demo success photo" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+18) "archive past December events" (view diff)
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aaronpk that's pretty good
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-manton.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-manton.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+53) "/* Manton Reece */ Manton demoing favorite/bookmarking photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-tom.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-tom.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+50) "/* Tom Brown */ photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-gwg.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-gwg.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+50) "/* David Shanske */ photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-marty.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-marty.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+53) "Marty photo" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-gregor.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-gregor.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+54) "/* gRegor Morrill */ screenshot of properties showing up!" (view diff)
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gRegorLove is watching project ideas video and taking notes on the wiki page
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-skneb1.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2917-344-iwcaus-demos-skneb1.jpg"
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-skneb2.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-skneb2.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+95) "/* Sven Knebel */ two demos, two photos!" (view diff)
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aaronpk Photo of Tantek demo https://media.aaronpk.com/file-20171210213549-5998.jpg
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aaronpk someone plz upload that
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-tantek.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-344-iwcaus-demos-tantek.jpg"
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+75) "/* Tantek Çelik */ add photo by aaronpk" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2017/Austin/Projects (+1816) "notes from video, videoduration to start of projects" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com created /2018/Baltimore/Guest_Book (+1076) "create stub guest book page" (view diff)
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gRegorLove ooh, guest book. Love it.
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gRegorLove Well, dangit. After the momentum of today, might need to come to Baltimore
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aaronpk :D
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aaronpk flights from seattle are $140 round trip just saying
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aaronpk i'm using points to go to seattle, 5000 alaska points and $5 in taxes. I can handle that.
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gRegorLove_ I live in San Diego now :) But checking on flights...
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gRegorLove_ $181, not bad
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tantek.com edited /2017/Austin/Demos (+130) "/* Tantek Çelik */ Addendum, got Square Cash support working!" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Hm, that's Spirit airlines though. I think I'd heard they weren't great, then Google Flights tells me "Below average legroom (28") Often delayed by 30+ min"
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gRegorLove Southwest is comparable
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gRegorLove tantek: Hah, I like the photo of my parsed mf2 for the demo
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schmarty gRegorLove: please come to baltimore! there will be a friday evening social event where my improv troupe will do some good nerdy internet and social web stuff.
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schmarty gRegorLove: our schtick, as a troupe, is that we have out of town improvisor guests play in with us. as someone with improvisation experience i would love to have you join us onstage. :}
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schmarty our new format is simple and fun - we get a suggestion and then do a series of short 2-person "strong point of view" scenes to explore ideas around the suggestion. then we just do a montage that pulls from those scenes and expands on them.
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aaronpk gRegorLove: I have feelings about Spirit. Clearly I should do a blog post
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gRegorLove mayyybe (to the improv) most likely (to IWCBmore)
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gRegorLove Bad feelings?
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schmarty gRegorLove: improv is not a requirement, but i bet you would have a good time. we are a fun and supportive bunch.
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gRegorLove Oh, I know
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gRegorLove It sounds fun. And I want want to be more comfortable performing, heh
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schmarty re: spirit, aaronpk had some good explanations as to why spirit is great
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gRegorLove Huh, interesting. I think the only thing I'd heard before was they nickel and dime you. But if you go in knowing that, maybe it's fine.
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gRegorLove +1 for a blog post
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schmarty if i can paraphrase, i think the takeaway is that wherever spirit seems to nickel and dime you, other airlines are overcharging. e.g. if you only bring a backpack that fits under the seat on another airline, you're subsidizing the folks using the overhead.
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sknebel hm, Kaja didn't properly clean up /live after the stream ended. let's see if it'll happen at least when it shuts down the youtube subroutine tonight
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sknebel Kaja << BUG: didn't remove 2017-austin-demos stream after it ended
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Loqi ok, I added "BUG: didn't remove 2017-austin-demos stream after it ended" to the "See Also" section of /User:Kaja.sknebel.net
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Nuremberg () "(-502) updates based on Baltimore event page" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Nuremberg/Guest_Book () "(-3125) s/guest list/guest book" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Nuremberg (+52) "link to sessions page instead of schedule page" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com created /2018/Nuremberg/Sessions (+2980) "stub session grid for nuremberg" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+32) "add austin demos link" (view diff)
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aaronpk lol I never added myself to the guest book for Summit
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Baltimore/Guest_Book (+302) "+me" (view diff)
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aaronpk huh I got a google webmaster alert about an increase in 404 errors on indieweb.org
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aaronpk ooh
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aaronpk previous MW was not returning 404 for deleted pages
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aaronpk I wonder if there is a plugin taht can make it return 410
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Zegnat Interesting, seems like that was made WONTFIX for core, aaronpk: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14345
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sknebel huh, interesting
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aaronpk bah
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aaronpk I guess a page *could* be un-deleted
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sknebel guess makes sense with the lighthttpd behaviour cited
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sknebel (although a switch for people with other servers would be nice)
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aaronpk kinda, I feel like that should be a config option in lighthttpd
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aaronpk should I patch the core?
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martymcgui.re edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+87) "add TWITIWAE today" (view diff)
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aaronpk ooh what is this $wgSend404Code
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aaronpk https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSend404Code
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aaronpk default true
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aaronpk there appear to be no hooks in the source that can change the response code
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gRegorLove what is guestbook?
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Loqi guestbook is a way to allow visitors to your site to leave a comment about the website as a whole, instead of a comment about a specific post https://indieweb.org/guestbook
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martymcgui.re edited /2018/Baltimore (+1088) "/* Hotels */" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /2018/Baltimore (+121) "/* Roomsharing */" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /2018/Baltimore (+273) "/* AirBnB or Couchsurfing */ airbnb search" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+12) "10th: IWC Austin session notes/videos linked" (view diff)
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martymcgui.re edited /2018/Baltimore (+2494) "/* Attractions and other activities */ add some places to eat and things to see and do" (view diff)
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sknebel When is next HWC in Berlin?
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Loqi what
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sknebel When is the next HWC in Berlin?
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Loqi what
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Kaja The next HWC in Berlin is on 2017-12-14.
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gRegorLove ooh
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gRegorLove when is the next HWC in Baltimore?
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Kaja The next HWC in Baltimore is on 2017-12-12.
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Loqi what
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sknebel (seeing Loqi I totally could have also have it create tons of hidden redirects on the wiki)
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Zegnat Hahaha, those “what”s!
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Loqi nice
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Zegnat When is the next HWC in Amsterdam?
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Kaja Sorry, I don't know.
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Loqi what
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Zegnat Oof, up your game Kaja! :P
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gRegorLove It would be funny if Loqi's whats progressed like "What" "what" "wat" "..."
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sknebel Zegnat: it's not on /Events, it doesn't exist (yet, working on that part)
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sknebel (it also doesn't immediatly catch if /Events gets changed (yet, working on ...))
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aaronpk Whoa
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aaronpk Looks like I'm gonna have to turnoff that Loqi hook
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sknebel When is IWC Baltimore?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/IWC_Baltimore
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sknebel when is IWC Baltimore?
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Baltimore 2018 is on 2018-01-20 at Digital Harbor Foundation Tech Center https://indieweb.org/IWC_Baltimore
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sknebel that's still useful
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sebsel when is IWC München?
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Loqi what
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sebsel (it's on my calendar for 2018-01-13/14, but I don't think it actually became a thing :P)
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sknebel sebsel: it's the first I hear of it ;)
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sebsel I have no idea where it came from then, and I can't see when I added it. Mystery.
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tantek.com edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+24) "9th favicon & main site Open Search" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /2018/Baltimore (+40) "/* Roomsharing */" (view diff)
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eddiehinkle.com edited /2018/Baltimore/Guest_Book (+344) "+me to Baltimore guestbook" (view diff)
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