#meta 2017-12-28

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tantek.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (-131) "/* San Francisco */ Atlas Tap Room closed today apparently, The Grove should be open" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+92) "/* San Francisco */ indie event, FB event" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+58) "/* Virtual Americas */ Google hangout link for vHWC: https://hangouts.google.com/call/8XGkwtEjxg2oH07pyOD_AAEE" (view diff)
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[tantek] Wish I had a quick way to determine who in a channel lives or is in SF right now
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[tantek] So I could message folks directly about HWC SF last minute posted / moved to The Grove Yerba Buena
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GWG Lurking in the HWC Virtual hangouts room
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gregorlove.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+98) "/* Virtual Americas */ +me" (view diff)
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[tantek] roshanvid and I are setup at The Grove for HWC SF!
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[tantek] But it looks like the free Peet's wifi from next door is blocking irc
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+32) "/* Virtual Americas */" (view diff)
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tantek whoa finally connected to IRC from HWC SF here at The Grove Yerba Buena
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tantek not sure what is going on with this network
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aaronpk Antsocial network?
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tantek do we have HWC pages for 2018 yet?
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tantek need to reply to https://twitter.com/colinjohnston/status/946176861658214400
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@colinjohnston @t When is the next one? (twitter.com/_/status/946176861658214400)
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tantek ok going to be optimistic and clone 2017-11-01 to 2018-01-10
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tantek aaronpk: Portland on 2018-01-10?
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gRegorLove Talking about an IWC Online for 2018
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gRegorLove GWG is adding it to /planning
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aaronpk I haven't talked to DreamHost about it yet, but will probably nail it down thefirst week of Jan
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tantek aaronpk: ok will put you down optimistically for 2018-01-10
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aaronpk I'm thinking about rebranding the Portland meetup in some way for next year
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tantek wow we have HWC TWTh that week
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tantek just Portland?
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tantek "Indie Rose City"?
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aaronpk I mean I don't want to speak for everyone else
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tantek it's come up as a topic in general (rebranding HWC)
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tantek in the past
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gRegorLove /Planning#Online if anyone is interested / wants to suggest dates
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tantek.com created /events/2018-01-10-homebrew-website-club (+7450) "clone from 2017-11-01, day before is Baltimore, day after is Amsterdam" (view diff)
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tantek alright folks, first "normal" HWC of 2018 date is up on the wiki, please add / edit as needed! (including entries/links for the cities that have theirs the day before or after) https://indieweb.org/events/2018-01-10-homebrew-website-club
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gRegorLove Doro photo: https://gregorlove.com/2017/12/dora-indiewebcat-snoozing-during-virtual/
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gRegorLove *Dora
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tantek what are cities
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Loqi cities are a good place to organize and host both IndieWebCamps and Homebrew Website Club meetups; see the list of cities below which have all had one or the other both in the past few years https://indieweb.org/cities
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tantek what is San Francisco
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/San_Francisco
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tantek what is 🌁
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%8C%81
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aaronpk What is 🚲
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%9A%B2
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roshanvid.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club () "(-1213)" (view diff)
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roshanvid.com created /Template:roshanvid (+433) "Created page with "<includeonly><span class="h-card" style="">{{sparkline|}} [[User:Roshanvid.com|Roshan Vid]]</span></includeonly><noinclude>This template can be used to include a [[sparkline]]..."" (view diff)
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tantek what is 🌁
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Loqi SF is an abbreviation for San Francisco, a city on the West Coast of the United States, and one of many cities that has hosted a IndieWebCamps, and currently hosts fortnightly Homebrew Website Club meetups https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%8C%81
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tantek what is 🚲
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Loqi exercise is a (typically) passive post type that represents some form of physical activity https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%9A%B2
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tantek wow roshan just discovered that there's a Chrome extension that seriously screws up editing wiki pages with links!
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tantek in this edit: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club&action=history
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tantek but we got Roshan setup with IndieAuth and logging into the wiki!
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tantek and creating his own Template and attempting to RSVP using the wiki
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tantek what is Linkification
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Linkification" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Linkification is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[roshanvid] Linkification is https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/linkification/cflchafndefoljnhhholeekfpgmbphaf
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Loqi ok
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tantek Linkification << Warning: avoid this extension as it screws up HTML TEXTAREA elements, like when you're editing the wiki it REMOVES all links from the TEXTAREA and other stuff like parts of style attributes.
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Loqi ok, I added "Warning: avoid this extension as it screws up HTML TEXTAREA elements, like when you're editing the wiki it REMOVES all links from the TEXTAREA and other stuff like parts of style attributes." to the "See Also" section of /Linkification
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gRegorLove Yikes
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tantek Linkification--
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Loqi linkification has -1 karma
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2017-361-hwc-sf.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2017-361-hwc-sf.jpg"
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gRegorLove Several of the reviews for that extension mention that issue too, going back to 2011
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tantek yeah so we're going to give some more bad reviews at another more prominent URL
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tantek for the next person that googles for it
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www.boffosocko.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+235) "vHWC photo" (view diff)
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gRegorLove "Breaks in every web based RTE. Clears content and wreaks havoc if you use any web based publisher. Avoid."
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tantek lol
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+180) "/* Photos */ SF" (view diff)
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[roshanvid] wow yeah, god knows how many wikis i've messed up in the past ~3 years 😛
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tantek hopefully people have repaired them!
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tantek.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+53) "/* Photos */ caption for SF, subheads" (view diff)
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tantek photo posted!
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tantek aaronpk - does chat.indieweb automatically use your indieauth? or was that a to-do?
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tantek seeing werid results here with roshanvid
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tantek he's logged in via IndieAuth on Chrome, and the Join button appears briefly, disappears and leaves him with a text input field which then doesn't work
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tantek and when I try in Firefox, it doesn't recognize that I'm already logged in via IndieAuth
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aaronpk Did he previously use the Web chat?
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tantek previously using Slack
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tantek now trying the web chat since he got indieauth working
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tantek did not previously use the web chat at all AFAIK
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tantek and on FF it still says for me: "connecting... connecting to the chat room..."
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[roshanvid] I did try to use webchat initially but I couldn't send any messages
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tantek we can debug some other time
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tantek just a heads-up
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aaronpk I didn’t integrate the web chat with the indieauth login yet but it does try to remember what nickname you entered before
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aaronpk sounds like we need to debug a bit
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tantek ohhh ok
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tantek just the etherpad?
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aaronpk Yea
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aaronpk The chat is still a todo.
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aaronpk I want it to know your irc nick from irc-people and have it sign in for you using that, but it’ll be a bit more work still
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tantek oh cool
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tantek hey aaronpk just noticed that /IndieAuth doesn't seem to (prominently) mention that IndieAuth is a web standard in progress!
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tantek (and link to it, show its phase etc.)
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tantek_ what is 🌉
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Loqi Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed and POSSE as a service https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%8C%89
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tantek_ what is 🎪
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tantek_ gives Loqi a nudge
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Loqi IndieWebCamps are brainstorming and building events where IndieWeb creators gather semi-regularly to meet in person, share ideas, and collaborate on IndieWeb design, UX, & code for their own sites https://indieweb.org/%F0%9F%8E%AA
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Loqi grabs the nudge
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tantek_ feel free to add to https://indieweb.org/cities
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vanderven.se martijn edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+99) "/* Blog posts */ Add link to vHWC notes" (view diff)
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roshanvid.com edited /events/2017-12-27-homebrew-website-club (+16) (view diff)
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sknebel When is the next HWC in Amsterdam?
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Kaja Sorry, I don't know.
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Loqi what
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sknebel poor confused bots
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Zegnat Haha
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Loqi hahaha
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sebsel January 11th :)
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Loqi sebsel: Zegnat left you a message 2 weeks, 2 days ago: you may have had IWC München in your calendar for 2018-01-13/14 because 2018-01-15–17 is Beyond Tellerand in Munich. jkphl is doing Accessibility Club again on the 15th too. Maybe someone at some point had hoped to do IWC again as a prequel?
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sebsel aaa, two weeks.
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sebsel Zegnat that makes sense.
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sknebel sebsel: Kaja not knowing about it means it's not on /Events yet ;)
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sebsel oh, that could be.
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sebsel I forgot I have do manually add it to all kinds of places.
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sebsel -general silent complains about the current system-
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sknebel sebsel: loud and clear. I have played with Kaja doing that for you, but not there yet
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seblog.nl edited /Events (+627) "Add HWC Amsterdam" (view diff)
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sebsel When is the next HWC in Amsterdam?
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Kaja Sorry, I don't know.
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Loqi what
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sebsel :(
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sebsel Probably caching. But it's there.
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sknebel yep, give it a minute, to rescan the page
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sknebel (on timer right now, since I hoped we'd get websub soon)
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sknebel When is the next HWC in Amsterdam?
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Kaja The next HWC in Amsterdam is on 2018-01-11.
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Loqi what
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Zegnat sebsel++
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Zegnat sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 9 karma in this channel (82 overall)
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ben.thatmustbe.me created /Template:httpsuser (+181) "Created page with "<span class="h-card"><a href= "https://{{{1}}}" class="u-url">{{#if: {{{3|}}} | {{sparkline|{{{3}}}}} | }}</a> <span class="p-name p-nickname">[[User:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}]]</span><..."" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme not sure how to fix the user template without breaking a bunch of stuff
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ben_thatmustbeme so did this
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /Template:benthatmustbeme (+5) (view diff)
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Zegnat Oh, interesting.
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Zegnat I didn’t even know that template existed. Maybe I should use that.
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ben_thatmustbeme what? the user: template?
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ben_thatmustbeme i just created httpsuser template
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Zegnat Yeah, the user template
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eddiehinkle.com edited /2018-01-01-commitments (+320) "/* Commitments */ +me" (view diff)
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tantek lol Zegnat your notes on the upside down and monsters
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tantek Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 21 karma in this channel (164 overall)
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tantek also ++ for ordinal date in the URL!
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tantek Zegnat, you could move those notes to a top level URL (instead of inside your User page) if you think they're ready to go / done / ok for others to add to / edit
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tantek https://indieweb.org/User:Vanderven.se_martijn/hwc-2017-361
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aaronpk schmarty: initial testing of this new video device is A++++++
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aaronpk i'm excited to bring it to baltimore!
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tantek well this should be an interesting week for new wiki pages
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tantek and haha Loqi is killing it with the memes in #indieweb-dev today https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2017-12-28
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Loqi awesome
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Zegnat My notes are on subpages of my user account mostly because they are my notes, tantek. Didn't feel like they should be actual wiki pages.
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tantek ah ok, like your own posts, but just hosted on indieweb.org
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tantek any reason not to post them on your own site in that case?
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Zegnat My posting interface is broken. Though since yesterday I am very close to getting it fixed.
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schmarty aaronpk++ that is rad!! I can’t wait to have it running simultaneously with my comparatively crappy chromebook setup! 😂
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Loqi aaronpk has 34 karma in this channel (1515 overall)
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tantek I sympathize with that. at least you have a posting interface *to break*
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schmarty Zegnat I broke my posting system yesterday as well. Just before leaving town for the day, of course, haha.
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schmarty Thankfully the posts are probably stored safely, just not being built and deployed.
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Zegnat tantek, soon I will have no posting interface, and just a Micropub endpoint, haha
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Loqi hahaha
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tantek.com edited /Events (+2779) "move Dec events to past, next up: 2018!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+270) "add 2018 Q1 fortnightlies" (view diff)
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tantek ok, rooms booked for 2018 Q1 HWC SF meetups!
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tantek that'll do for now
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tantek.com edited /2017-review (+103) "add t" (view diff)
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tantek btw for /Events for HWC in late January, and both in Feb/March, I only added SF as a city since I confirmed those venues
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tantek going to leave it up to HWC organizers in each city to add theirs as they confirm venues
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Template:martijnvdven (+126) "Add some mark-up inspired by {{user}} template." (view diff)
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Zegnat I think that’s alright. I don’t think Brighton was happening last Wednesday but it was still on the books because it is one of the default ones...
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aaronpk schmarty: do you know anything about the AV situation at the venue? Do they have an HDMI input to the projector we can use? (I was surprised that the HDMI in Austin didn't work and we were stuck using the Apple TV)
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schmarty aaronpk: projectors all accept hdmi
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aaronpk cool and the connector is by the podium i assume?
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schmarty Yup