#meta 2018-05-07

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Loqi [superfeedr] "Liked: replying to a post on sebastiangreger.net... Daniel Goldsmith wrote…" by Colin Walker on 2018-05-07 https://colinwalker.blog/07-05-2018-0705/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Great post but I think you sell short how much organizing the #indieweb community has done over the last 7-10 years. Getting to this point to" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-07 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/great-post-but-i-think-you-sell-short-how-much
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@swartz19 Every teacher should start blogging, and thosewho have been blogging for some time should learn about the #indieweb. Now that you control your data" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-07 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/swartz19-every-teacher-should-start-blogging-and-thosewho-have-been
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Hey my #digped friends @marijel_melo @HybridPed @sensor63 @stevenlthorne @WarwickLanguage @ParisaMehran @MiaZamoraPhD @absentminddmama @marisolluna1980 @tanbob @jessamyn @Jessifer @PinkPolitical Thought about taking blog to" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-07 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/hey-my-digped-friends-marijel_melo-hybridped-sensor63stevenlthorne-warwicklanguage-parisamehran-miazamoraphd
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I think #indieweb and #digped would play nice together. Our focus #doo, ethical tech, student data, and privacy make us ideal partners. So much I" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-07 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/i-think-indieweb-and-digped-would-play-nice-together-our
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@WarwickLanguage If you are a WordPress blogger (onboarding research starting there) and want to try out #indieweb I would love to have you in the" by Greg McVerry on 2018-05-07 http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/05/07/warwicklanguage-if-you-are-a-wordpress-blogger-onboarding-research-starting
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Loqi [superfeedr] "2018-05-07" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2018-05-07 https://stream.jeremycherfas.net/2018/2018-05-07
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jgmac1106 [snarfed] I am doing my part now just trying to help with onboarding documentation. A good user study is also hopefully a good recruitment tool when done with open data
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tantek jgmac1106++ agreed with those priorities
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jgmac1106 let me see what I can do for Wordpress. Its hard. I have come to identify the three things on indieweb.org as “values” that the “principles” are based on. It takes a long time to get to somebody through “owning” you data before you can begin indieweb conversations
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jgmac1106 was a question about indieweb being small in chat. Here was my responses: jgmac1106: this is what is quite different in the education blogging circles. As indieweb has grown over the last 12 years so have educational bloggers. Might be one of the few corners of the web still functioing in a blogosphere. Many are aware of the #indieweb stuff but don’t know how it works or tried way to early before WordPress plug-ins were ma
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jgmac1106 [1:47pm] jgmac1106: There is also a built in commuity that share core values, andits the community I know
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jgmac1106 [1:48pm] jgmac1106: If only a small circle in the dev community are talking indieweb and mircoformats then the answer is simple, talk to other communities outside of dev circles
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jgmac1106 [1:49pm] jgmac1106: the conversartion is hard, however. We first need to focus on writing documentation not for devs, that’s my starting point. What is the experience of the community I want to bring to indieweb, how do they inderstand indieweb, what tools do they use and understand, where do they have problems?
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jgmac1106 [1:49pm] jgmac1106: From this insight we can write better dcoumenation folks can then fork for different communities
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tantek agreed
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tantek jgmac1106: in time with better tools, hopefully fewer people (users!) have to worry about or even know about microformats or webmention etc.
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tantek and instead are happy about their personal site supporting cross-site commenting and other interactions
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tantek how it works under the hood (microformats, webmention) should not matter to users, that's plumbing
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jgmac1106 at the same time hopefully more people are learning what microfromats are to help build tools that will emerge in time, but I agree. Turn on the faucet without looking under sink
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tantek these are devs --> "more people are learning what microfromats are to help build tools that will emerge in time"
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tantek "build" implies dev
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tantek so that's on topic for the dev channel
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jgmac1106 meant in the onboarding of new “builders” when you think about different open source roles the evangelizing and recruitment for diffewrent audiences
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jgmac1106 so as more and more people start to use tools wiothout knowing about the plumbing you are also attracting more and more people who firt want to learn about plumbing and edventually those who can build a better valve to let connections flow
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jgmac1106 wow are we beating this metaphor to death
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[kevinmarks] People don't want to know about plumbing until their toilet backs up. Which is a Cambridge Analytica metaphor
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[kevinmarks] https://twitter.com/codergirl__/status/993524340175048705?s=19
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to Anna Holmes’ post about using cheese as a bookmark" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-05-07 https://boffosocko.com/2018/05/07/reply-to-anna-holmes-post-about-using-cheese-as-a-bookmark/
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GWG Starting to get excited about IWS
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aaronpk good! cause i'm starting to get nervous!
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gRegorLove Why nervous?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Working on a new “Subscribe” page for arush.io bec…" by Amanda on 2018-05-07 http://www.arush.io/?p=93664
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aaronpk lots to organize
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aaronpk lots of seats to fill
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gRegorLove Ah, yeah. I was wondering about that with it being mid-week this time.
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gRegorLove Anything we can do to help? Besides spreading the word
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aaronpk mostly just need to make sure we have a good turnout
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aaronpk if we get enough sponsorship money in i'm going to order all the food to be delivered since coordinating picking it up is a lot of work it turns out
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GWG I am going to be there Sunday night from Seattle
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GWG I have to book the train though
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[tantek] Aaronpk WDYT of having one of the keynotes be “Reading & Responding on The IndieWeb” co-presented by you and cleverdevil?
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[tantek] I think your two read/respond workflows with your sites / apps are one of the most awesome things to show from the past year
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[tantek] I’d still like to get manton too
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aaronpk that sounds like a fun demo!
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GWG Is Manton coming?
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schmarty i have booked my flights for IWS! i will be there Sunday evening through Saturday morning.
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GWG schmarty, what time Sunday evening?
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GWG I am booking my arrival for Sunday
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GWG I have a room at University Place again
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aaronpk yay schmarty! nice long stay!
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Loqi woot
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GWG I am leaving Wednesday night
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GWG Anyone up for meeting up Sunday night if the timing works?
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gRegorLove Sure, if I'm there then. Haven't locked in travel plans yet.
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GWG gRegorLove: How are you traveling? Car? Plane? Train? Bus?
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gRegorLove Submarine
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gRegorLove Probably plane, but might check on train.
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GWG gRegorLove: If you pick dirigible, I'm in.
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schmarty Around 5:30pm Sunday
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GWG schmarty: I was just about to book a train
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GWG One second
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schmarty I have a direct flight thank goodness
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schmarty Gotta figure out accommodations now, haha
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GWG schmarty: I'm stopping on the way in Seattle to visit a friend
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GWG schmarty: May I recommend an inexpensive hotel?
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schmarty i am open to recommendations!
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GWG The one I'm staying it is a few stops down, but its much less expensive
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GWG The University Place Hotel
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GWG I have a single booked, but would happily change it
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GWG Breakfast included
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[tantek] I’m partial to the Ace myself
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[tantek] Breakfast not included but there’s so much good food in the surrounding area!
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GWG [tantek]: More expensive though.
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GWG Hmm...should I take the 2:20 arriving at 5:50PM or the 6:10PM arriving at 9:40PM
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GWG The latter one is less expensive.
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GWG If I take the 6:10PM, I can spend more time in Seattle, I suppose.
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GWG And still get up with for the Summit