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aaronpk I think we need an indiewebify.me intervention. Nobody seems to feel ownership of it or want to contribute to it
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aaronpk And it's definitely out of date now, and missing things
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tantek__ is it at least automatically deploying updates from github? I remember that was a problem for a while
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tantek__ e.g. even just updates with the latest mf2 parser library etc.
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aaronpk The automatic deploy stopped when I moved it off of app engine, but we have had only one commit since then anyway so I don't think *that* is the problem
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tantek__ commits to it don't take into account updates to key libraries like phpmf2
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tantek__ but yeah there are multiple problems
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aaronpk In order to update the mf2 library you have to make a commit
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tantek__ perhaps this is an example of the kind of project that needs more than just scratch-your-own-itch motivation
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jgmac1106 [tantek] Not sure I would be able to fully support a parser at my level yet. I can read mf2 and recognize when stuff is out of whack. Happy to contribute.<hint> [Zegnat] this would be a perfect portfolio project, important, good exposure, demonstrate ability to work in distributed teams.</hint>
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jgmac1106 [tantek] since [sdepolo] and GoDaddy are sponsoring IndieWeb should we offer a chance for them to add any Wordpress and Known tutorials they may have on https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#tutorials
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jgmac1106 I would let any shared hosting provider put one in the table if they have it IMO
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tantek__ jgmac1106: maybe. if they agree to update their tutorials to suggest mf2-friendly themes, and IndieWeb plugins. because the existing Tutorials put you on good footing for an IndieWeb site
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jgmac1106 [tantek] yes we would have to approve, would have to be, “This is how to launch IndieWeb WordPress” i know stef was trying to get mf2 into the GoDaddy core install but that was from notes two years old now
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jgmac1106 for Known somebody could easily buiild a tutorial
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jgmac1106 not we approve, sounds wrong, must include indieweb
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@sdepolo We were just discussing that if GoDaddy has tutorials for installing any WordPress…" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://medium.com/@jgmac1106/sdepolo-we-were-just-discussing-that-if-godaddy-has-tutorials-for-installing-any-wordpress-b3b181950bfe?source=rss-be51ee086a18------2
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jgmac1106 okay deleting my Medium plugin. I hate when I forget to turn it off
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tantek__ oh dear
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[jgmac1106] no worries, luck y i get three hits a day, medium alogrithm really downplays short status updates
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[jgmac1106] too bad they rate limit you to ten posts diesn't look half bad: https://medium.com/me/stories/public
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[jgmac1106] oops again, that wouldn't work
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aaronpk just got a request that I would appreciate help with: "a couple good quotes about the summit and Indie Web for a blog entry? What the Indie Web is about and what will happen at the summit"
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tantek__ aaronpk, can help but need to do async. can we track such planning things in a section on https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning ?
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aaronpk need today or tomorrow morning
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aaronpk but I can add a section there
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tantek__ For anyone who has opinions on what projects we should or shouldn't list on our main /Projects page (which is linked to from the sidebar) - see and add your thoughts re: https://indieweb.org/projects#About_This_Page
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aaronpk anyone who feels like it please add to this tonight or in the morning: https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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tantek__ aaronpk, that's a good way to do it, that way you can just check to see how it's been edited in the morning
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-06-IWS-site-plan.png]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-06-IWS-site-plan.png"
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aaronpk !tell chrisaldrich,schmarty could you take a look at this and add a sentence or two before wednesday morning? https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@markhertling but if you ever did want to learn how to bring #IndieWeb power to Florida Hospital Publishing..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3674-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@sdepolo We were just discussing that if GoDaddy has tutorials for installing any WordPress IndieWeb..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3676-2/
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mblaney hi indieweb, I'm happy to volunteer at the summit, but haven't been to one before so not sure if that will make me a help or hindrance?
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Loqi mblaney: gRegorLove left you a message 4 days, 11 hours ago: Wanted to coordinate with you about arriving in Portland. My flight lands 2:30pm on 6/24. Will you already be checked in at the hotel and/or is my name on the reservation so I can checkin?
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mblaney happy if someone wants to allocate me a job if I can help.
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mblaney !tell gRegorLove sorry I didn't see your message earlier... check in is 4pm, shall we just meet at the hotel then?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove Hiya mblaney
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gRegorLove Ok, sounds good
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@c I was thinking of writing a &#8220;wish&#8221; blog post, and was looking on the indieweb wiki to see how it could be done when I saw that you&#8217;ve done in on your blog already. The wiki says you did it with the &#8220;post kind&#8221; WordPress plugin. Could you walk me through how you did it? [&#8230;]" by Serena on 2018-06-20 https://www.serenawho.com/2018/06/20/6890/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@c I was thinking of writing a “wish” blog post, and saw from the indieweb wiki that you’ve done it on your blog using the post kind WP plugin. Could you walk me through how you did that?" by Serena on 2018-06-20 https://www.serenawho.com/2018/06/20/6895/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It would be cool @no and I checked out your website. I actually am working on an #IndieWeb fork of @cogdog’s..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3679-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@10Web_io I am building a website for a non-profit Board I sit on and want to upgrade Event Calendar..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3685-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Just a reminder It’s Virtual Homebrew Website Club: Blogging 101 tonight at 8:30 edt. If you want to..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3683-2/
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sknebel did I see talk of an IWC UK last night?
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Zegnat Ping [kevinmarks], who mentioned something to line up with MozFest (?)
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sknebel (re indiewebify.me and updates not being important, a project having not-deployed bugfixes is a strong reason for me to not contribute to it, since not-integrated contributions are frustrating to m)
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[kevinmarks] Yes, I was wondering if an iwc London around mozfest time would woek
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jgmac1106 [sknebel] wasn’t the problem ther was no stewart for the repo? I don’t have the technical skills but happy to sort of “PM” the effort and work on community engagement , recruitment, documentation, and bug assigning/tracking etc.
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jgmac1106 Some validator that people could use to check mark up of different post types seems important, just neglected. I think [gRegorLove} might have mentioned some updates in vHWC-Europe not sure
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jgmac1106 I hate when I mess up the brackets
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jgmac1106 last call on a room. My travel is paid for if anyone needs travel assistance I can book a double and you can buy a coffee or beer and we call it even
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sknebel [kevinmarks]: would be cool, although it'd mean 3 european IWCs very close together
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Loqi [superfeedr] "More Than Archiving, Organizing Your Shared Stuff Begins at Home" by Alan Levine aka CogDog on 2018-06-20 http://cogdogblog.com/2018/06/organizing-begins-at-home/
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aaronpk okay, I just fixed a few bugs in indiewebify
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aaronpk and now it deploys automatically whenever the master branch on github is updated
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tantek_ aaronpk++ 🎉
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tantek__ trying to come up with a good positive quote (no negative framing, no defensiveness) for https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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tantek__ just noticed that there's some HWC meetups today/tonight!
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tantek__ oh London is *next* week
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[jgmac1106] [tantek] I was thinking of press quotes
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[jgmac1106] So many people published What is IndieWeb posts. Maybe we can find quotes there. We
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[jgmac1106] In mean time will work on PR statements. Have time since table is done
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tantek__ the one cleverdevil di?
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tantek__ did?
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tantek__ yes we need press quotes that are not just "anti-silo" or pre-emptively defensive about "not just developers"
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tantek__ important rule with press, lead with the narrative *you* want, not the narrative you've been forced into
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] and a bunch of others recently. Will search archive.. Will do.
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tantek__ jgmac1106: heads-up, https://indieweb.org/Blogging_101 needs some work, like call out the key details: Where and When as bullet points so they're easily findable (not buried in prose)
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tantek__ I can't even tell where
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tantek__ jgmac1106: also, /Blogging_101 says 2pm EDT, while /Events page says 20:30 -5
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tantek__ when is vHWC Blogging 101?
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Loqi what
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tantek__ when is Blogging 101?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/Blogging_101
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[jgmac1106] 8:30edt no rsvps yet. Been 1-2 people dropping in each week
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tantek__ jgmac1106: am or pm?
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tantek__ also EDT is -4 not -5 :)
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tantek__ either way, https://indieweb.org/Blogging_101 needs updating accordingly
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GWG KevinMarks, I would to try to do London. You are still one of the very active community members I have not met in person
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GWG Also, I liked London. Except for one bit of drama
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tantek__ aaronpk, there's my current attempt at a quote about indieweb summit: https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to Serena about Wishes for the Post Kind Plugin" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-06-20 https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/20/reply-to-serena-about-wishes-for-the-post-kind-plugin/
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tantek__ prunes his quote down to tweetable length
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], There's a roomsharing section if you want to add yourself: https://indieweb.org/2018#Roomsharing
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tantek__ aaronpk are we good for press quotes or still looking for more?
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aaronpk can always use more but I sent those
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gRegorLove Which publication is this for?
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aaronpk name.com
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aaronpk doing a little announcement since they're sponsoring
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tantek__ jgmac1106: yes, fly in on Sunday
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tantek__ since you've been organizing the virtual HWC meetups, I think it would be good to have you at Leaders Summit on Monday morning
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[jgmac1106] [tantek] Already booked flight. Let me what the change fee is and if my University will cover it
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gRegorLove Is /Leaders at the same venue?
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gRegorLove Oops, /2018/Leaders
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[jgmac1106] [aaronpk] do you need me to write an entire press release or were you just looking for quotes for the last paragraph of one you already did?
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aaronpk just quotes
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aaronpk they're writing a blog post
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tantek__ gRegorLove: /Leaders is for accumulating things to discuss at the next Leaders Summit (whenever that is)
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tantek__ then /2018/Leaders is specifically for *what* gets *actually* discussed at the 2018 Leaders Summit
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tantek__ we'll likely rewrite /2018/Leaders from scratch next Monday
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tantek__ contributions should go in /Leaders, and then we'll decide which of those to tackle (in what order)
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tantek__ gRegorLove: if you're up for a little wiki gardening, anything "new" in /2018/Leaders ought to be moved to /Leaders, and /2018/Leaders should just link to /Leaders for topics / issues to discuss until Monday
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gRegorLove Gotcha. /2018/Leaders doesn't seem to have a where though?
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tantek__ ah, that detail is on me
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gRegorLove I might be able to wiki garden more later today
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jgmac1106_ okay I switched flights
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gRegorLove jgmac1106++ Look forward to meeting you there
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Yarns v. Microsub? (Thinking out loud)" by Jack Jamieson on 2018-06-12 https://jackjamieson.net/yarns-v-microsub/
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tantek__ jgmac1106_: add yourself! https://indieweb.org/2018/Leaders#RSVP
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tantek__ with you I count 6 in person. reserving room accordingly...
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[jgmac1106] almost had to cancel because my sons all star games and having to flip the family vacation but we moved it to first week of July. Stoked to meet everyone
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tantek__ and done
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[jgmac1106] what did I do wrong to my user page?
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[jgmac1106] I can't seem to link by irc name or page name
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gRegorLove who is jgmac1106?
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Loqi J. Gregory McVerry (Greg) is an educator trying to use the web to help engineer better teachers https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], You need to set up a template: https://indieweb.org/Template:sparkline#How_to_make_a_small_h-card_template
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gRegorLove Doesn't have to be your domain name, you can choose a shorter name. I have {{gRegor}} for example
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gRegorLove Alternately, you can use ~~~ to sign with a link to your user page
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gRegorLove But that doesn't have the h-card or the photo.
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gRegorLove "having fun being yourself on the web" is a good description https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/20/140442/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] You're Invited to IndieWeb Summit!
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tantek__ what is Template:jgmac1106?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Template:jgmac1106" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Template:jgmac1106 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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schmarty thanks, gRegorLove ! /2018/Planning#Press got me looking at my previous posts and i realized most of my writing about the indieweb and its community boil down to "i like this" instead of why 😆
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Loqi schmarty: aaronpk left you a message 16 hours, 19 minutes ago: could you take a look at this and add a sentence or two before wednesday morning? https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It is called your bookmark post-kind and/or webmentions. #IndieWeb already has way to save Tweets. Also..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3687-2/
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gRegorLove Notably absent between 8am and 9am Monday is Blue Star Donuts, tantek ;)
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gRegorLove implied p-donuts
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[schmarty] lol @ implied p-donuts
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[schmarty] but also yes this sounds delightful
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Interviewing my digital domains" by wiobyrne on 2018-06-20 https://wiobyrne.com/interviewing-my-domains/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Interviewing my digital domains" by W. Ian O'Byrne on 2018-06-20 https://medium.com/@wiobyrne/interviewing-my-digital-domains-73dd0f1d34ac?source=rss-266c9142d478------2
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tantek__ gRegorLove, schmarty was trying to avoid burdening y'all with my bad habits 😂
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[jgmac1106] [wiobyrne] do you want to be a virtual buddy at Summit? Are you going to hit any remote sessions?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb Summit next week" by Manton Reece on 2018-06-20 https://medium.com/@manton/indieweb-summit-next-week-7ef294a036ee?source=rss-------1
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[jgmac1106] If any remote attendees would like to be my "virtual buddy" during any of the following sesssions please sign up> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G0XhA9PchmNhUuGMR_H3DVlyIsJAkQ5o9Xs9dUUxcCk/edit?usp=sharing This year I am working with http://virtuallyconnecting.org/ to bring the Summit to more people.
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[jgmac1106] On the ground people you can also join me during the time slots suggested.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reading Resituating Funds of Identity Within Contemporary Interpretations of Perezhivanie and thinking..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-20 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3689-2/
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tantek__ aaronpk any way to get mentions of indieweb/indiewebsummit from micro.blog the way we get them from Twitter?
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tantek__ maybe something we can ask manton about next week :)
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aaronpk i'd need either a global timeline or a search feature
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aaronpk preferably search
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Loqi [superfeedr] "IndieWeb Summit" by Khürt Williams on 2018-06-20 https://islandinthenet.com/indieweb-summit/
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