#meta 2018-06-25

2018-06-25 UTC
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schmarty Wheels down!
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GWG schmarty, welcome to the Pacific Northwest
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schmarty thx
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gRegor-mobile Malcolm and I will probably head downtown in about 20 minutes
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GWG I am in King Street station
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GWG Sorry I am not with you guys
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GWG Should have booked the earlier train
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[grantcodes] gRegor-mobile mblaney shall be heading out soon too. Could totally do a beer in the sun if such places exist here
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schmarty Tantek and I are grabbing a cab
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schmarty grantcodes, gRegorLove, mblaney: do y’all have a destination (or meeting area) in mind? We could head straight there. Probably would arrive in 30 minutes
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schmarty How about Prasad
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schmarty On Davis btw NW 9th and 10th
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schmarty There’s a beer place nearby
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schmarty (Outdoors)
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aaronpk Deschutes?
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aaronpk can't quite picture outdoor beers in that area
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schmarty We think deschutes but aren’t sure
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aaronpk they probably have sidewalk seating at least
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aaronpk there are two other bars within a few blocks with actual rooftop patios
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schmarty Woah!!
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aaronpk i'm gonna come downtown!
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schmarty 🎉
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GWG aaronpk, who is your preferred service for cars in PDX from the train station?
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[grantcodes] I'm going to be walking past Deschutes any minute now....
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gRegor-mobile We're wn route to Pine Market St area. We're just meandering though. Can meet somewhere.
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schmarty gRegorLove: that’s a slightly different area
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schmarty A block from Prasad now
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gRegor-mobile We can head to Prasad
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[aaronpk] @GWG Radio cab is my preferred taxi company if you don't like Lyft
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[aaronpk] On bike now! Where am i headed? deschutes?
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schmarty Prasad then Deschutes
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[aaronpk] 10 barrel is even more full
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dougbeal|iOS Forgot about meta
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dougbeal|iOS I’m headed to Pizza Jerk for a slice
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[aaronpk] [schmarty] there's plenty of room at Von Ebert inside, the outside tables are a bit small
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GWG schmarty, if you are still out, does the hotel know about me?
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schmarty GWG: I will get checked in before you get here
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GWG Okay, will keep you posted
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GWG Checking in down the line
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[dougbeal] GWG: Lyft
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schmarty GWG: likewise!
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[dougbeal] [aaronpk] did you end up at Von Ebert?
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[aaronpk] Yes!
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[aaronpk] Just got our beers too
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[jgmac1106] Wheels down in #pdx.
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GWG Just pulled into Centralia
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[jgmac1106] Had no wifi all flight so didn't get to do my online work, just need to push some update then free
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GWG Sorry
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schmarty Gwg: the cookies are real
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[dougbeal] It’s the Cake that’s a Lie?
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schmarty https://media.martymcgui.re/4f/67/7b/87/2a53146c7b1e93d99edef8ac5d98efa03f31e5f564bef6dd67b1a0b6.jpg
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schmarty GWG: I am checked in at the hotel. Let me know when you are close by and I’ll meet you in the lobby. It’s a winding walk to get to the room.
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GWG schmarty: How is it? It's a nice simple place, not luxurious
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schmarty It’s an older place. It’s fine!
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GWG Exactly
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GWG I stayed there last year
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GWG schmarty: Last year, I arrived too late to get the cookie
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schmarty GWG: i picked up your cookie for you. it will have cooled off a bit by the time you get here but there is a microwave in the room. :}
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GWG schmarty: I haven't eaten a cookie since April 2017
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schmarty you may dispose of this one as you wish
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GWG schmarty: I will share it with others
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[jgmac1106] I, as a public service, will gladly eat your cookies. In fact adding a pop up modal saying in leu of using cookies this site collects cookie donations
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[jgmac1106] 45 min on the train. Might be able to finish the work I was supposed to do on the plane.
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GWG jgmac1106, are you at the same hotel?
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[jgmac1106] No I am at some hotel called Hotel DeLuxe, praying I get off correct stop on the Red Line. Pioneer I think
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GWG jgmac1106, will save you the cookie then
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gRegor-mobile schmarty, what room are you guys in and is the late night party in yours or ours? :)
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schmarty 387. I think the late night party is in the pool.
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GWG schmarty, pool party? Fun.
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GWG Okay, Vancouver.
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[jgmac1106] You folks all at University?
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GWG jgmac1106, many yes.
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GWG I am in Vancouver
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[jgmac1106] Gonna send an email to my students then find a bite. Barely hanging by a thread but I can rally if folks hanging
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GWG Hope to be at University soon
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schmarty jgmac1106: I am at Univ Ctr waiting up for GWG but otherwise ready to retire.
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GWG schmarty, I am sorry
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schmarty GWG: not your fault. i slept badly last night and have yet to adjust to the time change. :}
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schmarty also wanting to get a jump on the morning because we have an early day.
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GWG Pulling into Portland in a few
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GWG Pulling into the station
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[jgmac1106] May just hang in my hotel. I am wiped. Shitty day of travel
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GWG Waiting for transport
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schmarty GWG: welcome to Portland!
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[jgmac1106] Welcome @gwg
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GWG 8 minutes
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[dougbeal] GWG: welcome. I went to my AirBnB. Got certbot running in a container and the certs installed in nginx.
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[grantcodes] Oh don't know how many other non leaders are around tomorrow, but if there are maybe we can do co-working in a cafe before the party
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GWG schmarty, downstairs
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schmarty oh! be right there.
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schmarty 2 - 3 minutes
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mblaney_ grantcodes that sounds good. let me know where you end up.
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schmarty GWG has arrived!
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mblaney_ welcome GWG, any further plans for the evening?
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schmarty mblaney_: he says "yes, i plan on unpacking my suitcase." is up for saying hi but not for going out.
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gRegor-mobile Hello from 272, GWG
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aaronpk Made it home! Good night! See you all tomorrow!!
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schmarty we're at 387
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mblaney_ we'll come say hi then :-)
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schmarty okay!
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[grantcodes] mblaney_ Maybe the stumptown coffee on sw stark
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[jgmac1106] I am at Hotel DeLuxe
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jkphl.is created /2018/Berlin (+4658) "Created page with "<div class="h-event"> = <span class="p-name">IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018</span> = The '''fourth IndieWebCamp in Berlin''', but just one of many [[IndieWebCamps]]! <div class="e..."" (view diff)
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jkphl.is created /2018/Berlin/Guest_Book (+1561) "Created page with "The '''<dfn>Guest Book</dfn>''' for attendees of [[2018/Berlin|IndieWebCamp Berlin 2018]]. == Guest Book == Adding yourself here is '''OPTIONAL'''. If you'd like to share w..."" (view diff)
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petermolnar morning (?) everyone; how and when can one join the leaders summit remotely?
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calumryan morning petermolnar
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calumryan see https://indieweb.org/2018/Leaders#Remote_Participation
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calumryan from 17:00 BST I think (18:00 CEST)
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petermolnar I'm on CEST right now
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petermolnar thank you
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petermolnar fyi for debian/ubuntu users vs vidyo: https://askubuntu.com/a/801760
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2018/Leaders (+1991) "/* New ideas */ Code of Conduct stuffs. I apologise for being late with this, but I was waiting for feedback from a third-party" (view diff)
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sknebel Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 27 karma in this channel (228 overall)
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Zegnat Aah, it was in his template. Thanks!
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Zegnat sknebel++
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/IndieWebCampDE/status/1011158068367904768
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/1011156906021457920
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Zegnat Pick your poison: German and English announcements of IWC Berlin!
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sknebel !rt https://twitter.com/IndieWebCampDE/status/1011158068367904768
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Loqi Thanks sknebel and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011201623429767169
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sknebel !rt https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/1011156906021457920
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Loqi Thanks sknebel and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011201644724277249
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Preview of Sunlit 2.2" by Manton Reece on 2018-06-25 https://medium.com/@manton/preview-of-sunlit-2-2-5d0d8422a533?source=rss-da34ff86b897------2
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aaronpk [jgmac1106] what cable do you need? I have lots I can bring
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jmac Hi folks. I've been silent on chat for a few weeks because of travel and busy. I'm on my way to the Summit just the same (hello from flight level 340, en route to PDX) and looking forward to meeting many of you soon. :)
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aaronpk waves to jmac
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GWG jmac: Advise us when you reach the outer marker
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aaronpk so many similar nicks
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aaronpk who is jmac?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Jmac.org
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jmac roger that
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GWG aaronpk: We have Nicks? I can't think of one Nick in the community
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aaronpk lol
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GWG mblaney could have watched the World Cup here, they have it on
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Zegnat The Nicks aren’t the problem, the Bens are...
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Zegnat What is Ben?
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Loqi Ben is an over-used nym that causes much confusion https://indieweb.org/Ben
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Running through Dulles yesterday making a last minute connection to #PDX for #IndieWeb summit and I my..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-25 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3797-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Hey everyone tweeting from #ISTE18 thanks. I couldn’t be there. Did you know though you could be tweeting..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-25 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3801-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Let’s connect after the summit again. Really want to record your voice for the WordPress #IndieWeb user..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-25 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3799-2/
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petermolnar see ben.thatmustbe.us
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GWG e venue
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GWG schmarty already left, heading to the venue
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GWG Waiting for the streetcar
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Zegnat I thought I had to hurry with establishing uplink, but of course you are all going for breakfast first :)
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aaronpk Silly human things like eating always getting in the way
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[jgmac1106] At Kure now. I can hang with you on Mumble if you are lonely @zegnat
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GWG I am waiting for the streetcar still. Should have taken the trimet. Curse you Google Maps
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Zegnat Better just enjoy the breakfast with everyone else [jgmac1106] ;)
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Zegnat I am very close to finishing the proof-of-concept for my IWS project ... a day early!
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aaronpk on the max heading to Kure!
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GWG At least aaronpk is late too
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[jgmac1106] I finished my syllabus: https://edu307syllabus18summer.jgregorymcverry.com/ but I couldn't wrap the events in my schedule in h-events, I tried divs and spans, as soon as each row was included in same div or span they were collapsed into same span..and I am early @zegnat. Cut from the cloth, "that if you show up on time you are already late."
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Loqi EDU 307: Children's Literature and Literacy
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Zegnat Breakfast is supposed to start in 4 minutes, surely?
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aaronpk I'm not late *yet*
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aaronpk Zegnat will keep us on schedule
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GWG I will be longer than that. I had to wait as I just missed the last streetcar
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Zegnat Maybe if I can keep events on schedule remotely, some day someone will say “we need to fly this guy in to keep us on schedule on the ground” ;)
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GWG Zegnat, you are always welcome
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GWG Besides, the air traffic controllers aren't on the planes
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[grantcodes] I'm working from the ace hotel this morning up in the mezzanine. Anyone is free to join me
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[grantcodes] Also just saw tantek so can confirm he's on his way 😛
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petermolnar .
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[chrisaldrich] I'll be into PDX around 730 this evening.
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: aaronpk left you a message 5 days, 13 hours ago: could you take a look at this and add a sentence or two before wednesday morning? https://indieweb.org/2018/Planning#Press
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[chrisaldrich] Sorry Loqi and aaronpk, I saw that, but not until after the deadline later that morning.
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Zegnat aaronpk, here is your ping to get on schedule ;)
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petermolnar can I has vidyo link at https://2018.indieweb.org/vidyo ?
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Zegnat Oh, I better check if I actually still have a functioning vidyo client
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[schmarty] we're getting it set up
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[schmarty] also, hello!
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calumryan hello
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[kevinmarks] hello
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[schmarty] etherpad for leader's summit notes today: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2018-Leaders
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tantek__ Zegnat: can you check your channel invitations?
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petermolnar may I have a vidyo link, please, if it's set up already?
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sknebel +1 (I can at least listen in for a bit I think)
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[kevinmarks] still getting file not found for https://2018.indieweb.org/vidyo
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aaronpk [kevinmarks]: can you get on IRC?
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KevinMarks OK, on irc on my phone
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[jgmac1106] [chrisaldrich] I booked your room, you are all set, bumped us to the suite
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] thanks look forward to it. I'll kill my other room then.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Headed to LAX for our family flight ..." by Jonathan LaCour on 2018-06-25 https://cleverdevil.io/2018/headed-to-lax-for-our-family-flight
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[dougbeal] Ended up sleeping in. What are non leadership types thinking for lunch?
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GWG Leadership types are hungry too
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[dougbeal] Oh, is it lunch out?
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mblaney_ dougbeal I'm at toffee club watching world cup
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[kevinmarks] I'm hungry for dinner
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mblaney_ could meet you somewhere in about an hour?
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mblaney_ grantcodes suggested stumptown.
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[dougbeal] Ok, I will meet you at stump town
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[dougbeal] I won’t be there before 25minitez
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mblaney_ cool it's only half time so won't be heading there for a while.
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[grantcodes] [dougbeal] I'll be here. Ace Hotel stumptown upstairs. Will head somewhere else for lunch though
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[dougbeal] [grantcodes] are you in the lobby?
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[grantcodes] [dougbeal] Up a flight of stairs
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[dougbeal] Grabbing coffee
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[grantcodes] Cool, see you in a second
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[dougbeal] mblaney_ is it half time?
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mblaney_ dougbeal all finished just waiting for a bus.
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mblaney_ are you still at the ace hotel?
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tantek__ We need to announce our events more in advance
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[dougbeal] Yep
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Zegnat 2 days until did aaronpk and Zegnat check the possibility for remote audio yet?
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2018-06-27 10:45pm CEST (#6319)
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[manton] What time does the summit wrap up tomorrow? Looks like the main page says 5:30 and wiki says 6:30.
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aaronpk good question
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aaronpk fixed wiki schedule
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday
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aaronpk last session ends 5:30pm, we will do a short announcement of evening plans
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aaronpk and fixed 2018.indieweb.org
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aaronpk [manton]: can I join you for lunch at Von Ebert?
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[manton] Thanks! Sure, will be here for a while probably.
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[eddie] aaronpk: I know you’ve been busy over the last couple of days. In case you haven’t seen, Indigenous has been approved by Apple and is available for Pre-Order on the App Store. (Which is a weird statement since it’s free).
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[eddie] I have the actual release date set for the end of this week just to give me a little more time to fix some final bugs, etc. But people can “Pre-Order” it and it will automatically download when it’s released. If it fits properly, feel free to mention that when discussing the state of Indie Readers
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[eddie] manton: Just a heads up, I’m still planning for adding in direct micro.blog timeline support, but for now it just has limited micropub posting support. So probably not something to really mention to the m.b community until I get the added support in there. I’ll let you know when I get those added in and am testing it
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[cleverdevil] Wheels down for the cleverdevil family in PDX. See everyone tomorrow AM! Gonna have to skip the pre-meetup tonight.
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[dougbeal] [grantcodes] done wandering the library, where did you end up?
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[aaronpk] [cleverdevil] do you have a few minutes to talk about the talk tomorrow?
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[grantcodes] [dougbeal] In the back up the top, can meet you on the bottom floor
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[aaronpk] btw anyone who feels like hanging out at the Pre-Party venue early, you should come over! I need extra bodies to help "reserve" this seating area anyway!
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[dougbeal] [grantcodes] art or literature? I need to see if the pdf of the newspaper worked.
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[aaronpk] I'm gonna be here working on a few things before the official start
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[aaronpk] [tantek] if you want to cowork on slides for tomorrow I'm hanging out at Pine St Market and working til the party. There's plenty of coffee and food here!
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[grantcodes] [dougbeal] down in the popular library now. That original table
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[tantek] [aaronpk] I forgot I had a work CSS meeting 15:30-16:30 - at Mozilla now but was thinking of working at Ace Lobby afterwards (quieter than Pine st)
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aaronpk k
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aaronpk I need to make sure i'm at pine st early so i'm gonna stay here
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[cleverdevil] [aaronpk] just getting settled in at the hotel. Happy to chat about the talk.
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aaronpk [cleverdevil]: cool! mind coming to Pine St Market for a bit?
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[cleverdevil] Maaaaybe. Let me see what the plan is with the fam first.
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[cleverdevil] [aaronpk] been fighting off food poisoning and I think I’m gonna have to stay in for a bit so I’ll be 100% by tomorrow.
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aaronpk [cleverdevil]: ah k no problem. I wanted to coordinate on the presentation
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aaronpk my plan was basically to hit the key points from my blog post https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/20/46/indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] An IndieWeb reader: My new home on the internet
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[cleverdevil] Yeah that makes sense. I’ll plan on getting to the event early tomorrow if that works for you.
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[cleverdevil] I’d love to make it tonight and sort it all out, but I want to knock out any chance I don’t feel well in the AM.
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aaronpk i'm gonna be pretty slammed with setup from 8-9 so maybe we can talk during registration/breakfast
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[cleverdevil] Kk
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gRegorLove Starting to dump some of the LS notes and extract tasks to https://indieweb.org/2018/Leaders#Task_List
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gRegorLove Won't finish tonight, but if anyone else wants to help, the etherpad is linked and should include the original wiki contents. I'm separating out the discussion in a sub-section for each "Leaders Summit Discussion"
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tantek__ who ask the order of succession question?
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tantek__ btw I invited the dweb slack folks to the pre-party
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[jgmac1106] [tantek] not sure but I nominate whomever it was as next inline (need a "not it" emoji)
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aaronpk oh are any of them in portland?
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schmarty Heading down to Pine St to reinforce you, aaronpk!
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gRegorLove Did we contact Jean about being a CoC contact, or will we do that tomorrow?
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aaronpk yes I talked to her
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tantek__ I felt like we covered a lot today, and yet it felt like we still had things left over
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tantek__ did we get anywhere with indieweb community infrastructure for example?
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aaronpk we didn't talk about it because it looked like a header for the stuff below it
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schmarty tantek: only when it comes to github legs
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schmarty ...orgs
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aaronpk legs lol
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aaronpk oauth... it has legs
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schmarty autocorrect strikes again
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gRegorLove Only sponsorship, chat noise, and rename /irc-people
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tantek__ the new / targeted subtopics, got it
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gRegorLove But does oauth know how to use them?
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tantek__ gRegorLove: depends on how many
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gRegorLove (silly ZZ Top joke)
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tantek__ gRegorLove: (even sillier n-legged Oauth joke)
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tantek__ jkphl++ for stubbing the IWC Berlin page! https://indieweb.org/2018/Berlin
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schmarty This joke has sheer energy
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tantek__ oh darnit I really wanted to talk about rest-of-year IWC scheduling
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tantek__ because as we noted with how far in advance to announce next IWS, it has time sensitivity
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aaronpk forgot I have a principles summary slide in my intro
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2018-06-25-16-52-32-3sgSo4JWss.jpg
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tantek__ 2016: 10 IWCs (incl IWS); 2017: 9; 2018: 5 so far
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aaronpk I think I derived that from the principles page
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tantek__ missing this year (currently, but we have local Leaders for) Austin, NYC, SF, MIT (sorta local / East Coast), Brighton, London, LA
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tantek__ aaronpk when you see chrisaldrich at Pine Street Market, can you ask him about LA? Similarly with Manton and Austin (that was great last year)
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aaronpk sure
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tantek__ I can ask Jeremy Keith again about Brighton
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[jgmac1106] At lunch we did talk about maybe adding a principle that the IndieWeb is a Deliberately Inclusive Community will add to etherpad
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tantek__ jgmac1106: more CoC related than /principles
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[jgmac1106] Yeah that makes sense, just wanted the thinking we had at lunch captured
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tantek__ distinction: /principles are about IndieWeb in particular that help define it as a specific community.
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tantek__ Whereas CoC is expressly intended as a common baseline that we'd expect any conference could / should do, re-use etc.
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aaronparecki.com created /2018/what-is-the-indieweb (+76) "stub with link to slides" (view diff)
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tantek__ pretty sure we want "deliberately inclusive" to apply more broadly than indieweb, hence CoC