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tantek__ GWG, do you think you could help drive exploring IWC NYC possibilities? (venues, dates) Maybe in September?
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tantek__ was going to ask mattl about MIT/Cambridge but I think I saw he couldn't make it to IWS?
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tantek__ KevinMarks: were you looking into IWC London adjacent to MozFest, or possibly even as a track as part of MozFest?
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[jgmac1106] @gwg I have plenty of NYC contacts to help with space donations and can always do New Haven as well
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GWG I will be at the Meetup, we'll talk
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KevinMarks Yes, one or the other
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[jgmac1106] Cool @gwg few folks from last vHWC were asking about an IWC or vIWC in August or September... But that is too soon IMO
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gRegorLove [jgmac1106], If you're adding to the etherpad, I've started dumping those. Can you double check https://indieweb.org/2018/Leaders#Sessions and add notes there?
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gRegorLove *dumping it to the wiki, I mean
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Combining #IndieWeb and @VConnecting efforts at the Summit" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/combining-indieweb-and-vconnecting-efforts-at-the-summit/
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jmac Oops I forgot to check in per GWG. Uhhh I’m steps away from the pre-party, will attempt to find y’all. :)
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jmac Uh oh. SW and SE are not the same, I learn.
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tantek__ do we need nametags for the pre-party?
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GWG Per me?
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tantek__ nicknametags?
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jmac I gave up and used a Lyft and got a nice lesson about southwest Portland historical street layout from the driver and now I shall walk inside. I shall be the confused hairy white guy with a gray blazer, come say hi
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gRegor-mobile I should be there in about 20. I'll be the one making bad puns.
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Loqi +1
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gRegor-mobile Loqi knows what's up
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[tantek] Berlin Remote Viewing fb event: https://facebook.com/events/239789466797663/
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gRegorLove Leaders: session notes are in https://indieweb.org/2018/Leaders#Sessions. There's also a Task Lists subheading and a Next Time, listing the topics we didn't get to (should probably be merged into /Leaders#Issues?)
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gRegorLove See ya tomorrow at the Summit! Zzz
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Zegnat Darn. Almost synced up with gRegorLove. Could have done a wikifying handoff if I got up slightly earlier. Sadly I have other things to do this morning pre-IWS :(
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www.zylstra.org blog created /User:Www.zylstra.org_blog (+266) "Created page with "Ton Zijlstra, blogging since 2002 at https://zylstra.org/blog Into Networked Agency, which requires not just the web but also other technologies and methods have much lower..."" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Loose Ideas for the Next Social Web" by Eric Woodward on 2018-06-26 https://blog.itsericwoodward.com/2018/loose-ideas-for-the-next-social-web
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Zegnat jgmac1106: the schedule grid will have links to separate etherpads per session. So they are just one click away from the schedule.
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Zegnat Every proposed session also comes up with a hashtag for themselves, and that's what we use for the etherpad URL.
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Zegnat At least, that has been working well at previous events, and I have no reason to think we'll be changing that this time around.
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Zegnat Good morning too ;-)
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jgmac1106 okay perfect, I am thinking it is 1:) join IRC, matrix, or slack, 2:) hashtag is #indiewebcamp, 3:) keynotes are streamed, 4:) lightning round-the three prompts and post to chat, 5:) individual sessions-hashtag for themselves, and that's what we use for the etherpad URL.. If you want to propose a session contact me and I will propose it, 5:) demo day remote post will come at end of day today
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jgmac1106 did I miss anything?
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Loqi misses anything too
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Zegnat Hmm... Check with aaronpk and tantek if they prefer #indiewebsummit as hashtag?
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jgmac1106 I think the lightning intro questions were: What is your domain?, What is one cool thing yo did? What is your next goal
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Zegnat But sounds about right! For demos we'll need to do some testing to see how remotes can do it. By proxy always works, of course. sknebel showed off my token endpoint at the last Germany event
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Zegnat I think those were the questions, yeah.
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jgmac1106 #indiewebcamp is hashtag on https://2018.indieweb.org/ so I am going to use that
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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Zegnat Isn't this answered by that mythical style guide? ;-)
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jgmac1106 ugg for some reason all my quotes just decided to go backwards on me: https://jgregorymcverry.com/ and now I can’t change anything so weird
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Zegnat The internet is a weird place. Time to get back to plain HTML
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jgmac1106 there we go, had to cut and paste old quotation marks, the new ones are backwards, but only happens in FF not Chrome
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jgmac1106 okay doing post now
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Zegnat Right. I fixed your marks somewhere... Don't remember where. Maybe in the CoC
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tantek__ Zegnat,sknebel can you add yourself as interested in https://facebook.com/events/239789466797663/ and invite Berliners you know?
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sknebel no ;)
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tantek__ sknebel: lol ok :)
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sknebel never used facebook. sgreger and flo spread the news through the HWC meetup group, can't think of anyone else right now
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jgmac1106 [tantek] is hashtag #IndieWeb or #IndieWebCamp?
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jgmac1106 [zegnat] is there a YouTube channel where videos usually end up?
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Zegnat Yes. Give me a second. Booting pc.
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Zegnat https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCco4TTt7ikz9xnB35HrD5gQ is the IndieWeb channel
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tantek__ sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 12 karma in this channel (106 overall)
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tantek__ maybe we should have a page for "never used" for silos, similar to silo-quits
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Zegnat I have no Berlinners on Facebook either, I’m afraid :( My announcement tweet did reach the Berlin HWC crowd and got retweeted by IndieWebCampDE
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Zegnat I am going offline for an hour to recharge, then I’ll be back before the venue opens to help aaronpk test the V/A stuff. Still in this weird zone between Sweden and PDX time... looking forward to IWS!
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jgmac1106 enjoy I have to go get breakfast soon for the crowd
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jgmac1106 [aaronpk] going to leave to pick up food at 7:30 Bowery Bagel?
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tantek__ Zegnat++ thanks! We'll need all those Berlin connections for IWC Berlin too!
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Loqi zegnat has 28 karma in this channel (230 overall)
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[aaronpk] Yep on Broadway! Should be already paid for
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calumryan Is there an accessibility statement for IWS or any other events? Putting together a statement soon for HWC London regarding venue access and inclusion
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Liked: Scripting News: What became of the blogosphere?... "I doubt if the blogosphere of 2018 is smaller in absolute terms than the blogosphere of the early 2000s. In fact I'm pretty sure it's orders of magnitude larger... What changed is we lost the center." Read the full post..." by Colin Walker on 2018-06-26 https://colinwalker.blog/26-06-2018-1500/
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jgmac1106 [calumryan] no but that is a good idea
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Loqi [superfeedr] "How to Remote Participate at #IndieWeb Summit #edtechchat #literacies #NotAtISTE @vconnecting" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/how-to-remote-participate-at-indieweb-summit-edtechchat-literacies-notatiste-vconnecting/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Plans and Thoughts for IndieWebSummit" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-06-26 https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/26/plans-and-thoughts-for-indiewebsummit/
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tantek__ having small breakout sessions is apparently quite productive (as we know from experience :) https://hbr.org/2018/06/the-most-productive-meetings-have-fewer-than-8-people
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Zegnat calumryan: can't find anything on http://eliotcenterportland.org either. But they seem to have a wheelchair symbol on the door, if that's enough of an accessibility statement
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calumryan Zegnat: accessibility is about much more than just a wheelchair symbol :)
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Zegnat I know, but it's the best I could find on their site. Haha
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schmarty jgmac1106: thanks for writing up a remote participation guide! for today’s intro and personal site demos by proxy, I will need name, url, a specific url or feature to demonstrate, and short description of the feature
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schmarty (From anyone who wants to participate in this way)
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Zegnat Thankfully you have lots of practice saying my name!
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Zegnat calumryan: if you are just looking for accessibility statement in general, maybe reach out to jkphl? He's been focussing on off- and online accessibility lately and has experience running an event space
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calumryan Zegnat: yes looking to contact him about it, interesting his event website doesn’t have one I can find yet https://accessibility-club.org
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Loqi Accessibility Club Conference
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Zegnat I was surprised too. Tollwerkstatt (the event space) doesn't mention it either
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Zegnat Maybe a great opportunity for him to work on it then!
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tantek__ Zegnat, definitely
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sknebel calumryan: from that page: "The venue is fully accessible for wheelchair users (including the bathrooms)."
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sknebel and a section of what he's aiming for (which I'd read as not guaranteed yet) under "What we're up to"
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Zegnat aaronpk: I am just walking around getting a chilled water supply next to my desk. But ping me if you want to test A/V!
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calumryan sknebel: yes granted that’s great to at least indicating what’s aimed for. I had in mind something similar to BTconf https://beyondtellerrand.com/accessibility to have as a template across all events along with specific venue information for each
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sknebel calumryan: interesting, something to consider. a lot of it is going to be event-specific, but I guess a general statement would be useful, even if it just outlines what kinds of things we've handled in the past and that you can contact individual organizers
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sknebel also something to consider for assitance funds, e.g. would we cover costs for someone's helper/guardian or other special support they'd need to attend. Typcial thing would be to waive entry fees, which obviously generally isn't a thing for us
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Zegnat That is something really hard to create guidelines for, because it quickly comes down to a person’s personal needs and what is already catered too. E.g. people with a visual impairment can take a second person with them in the ICE from the Netherlands to Berlin with almost no (or perhaps it was free) extra cost.
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sknebel not sure we need strict guidelines, I think that's something the decider can look at case-by-case, but right now we don't even communicate if we'd be open for considering it
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sknebel (or I missed it, I haven't looked at travel fund offers much tbh)
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schmarty Cords and power strips acquired
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[aaronpk] For some reason I can't start the hangout here
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[aaronpk] Can someone call IndieWebCamp.live@gmail.com on hangouts to host the call?
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Zegnat on my way
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[aaronpk] Just got all the cameras hooked up
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Zegnat Calling
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[aaronpk] Oh crap something decided to update itself
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Zegnat “Unknown is unavailable”
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[aaronpk] One sec
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Zegnat No problem, this is why I was going to be available for this ;)
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[aaronpk] Android is very frustrating sometimes
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[aaronpk] Can you hear us?
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Zegnat I can hear you
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Zegnat But the audio sometimes studders, so actually very hard for me to follow along
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Zegnat Trying to see if it is on my end
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[aaronpk] We'll be streaming on YouTube separately too
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[aaronpk] With better audio from the stage mic
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Zegnat The audio quality isn’t bad at all
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Zegnat Just weird stutters
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[cleverdevil] https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626
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[cleverdevil] Try that.
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Zegnat On my way. Was switching to dedicated 4G line
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Zegnat Oh, urgh, more installing neccessary
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[cleverdevil] Its worth it! Zoom is pretty great, in my experience.
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Zegnat This looks a lot better!
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Zegnat Chris front and centre?
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[cleverdevil] I just waved at you from the side. Glad its working!
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Zegnat Let me try from my home internet again :)
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Zegnat There is a “Touch up my appearance” setting in the Zoom webcam options! XD
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Zegnat [cleverdevil], do you know if there are any bandwidth settings available somewhere?
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Zegnat Just hit 50%+ packet loss on video, haha, but that’s my connection. Zoom really seems to prefer a steady 300+kbps downstream.
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Zegnat Thankfully, it streams audio seperately. This means I have 0% packet loss on audio!
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Zegnat also wonders where the mic is.
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Zegnat I seem to get the best sound from a conversation off camera between jgmac1106 and anomalily :P
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Zegnat [aaronpk], aaronpk, [cleverdevil]: is this Zoom URL OK to share?
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[cleverdevil] Yes!
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[cleverdevil] Its fine to share. I am, not sure about bandwidth settings, it generally speaking just works for me.
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[aaronpk] Yep please do!
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Zegnat You probably aren’t generally living on Swedish country-side 4G ;)
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[cleverdevil] [aaronpk] this was the original slide deck from last year announcing Together - https://cleverdevil.io/s/axhhj2zaQN.pdf
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Zegnat !rt http://twtr.io/1fP51bx2JA9
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat Someone in to hit that retweet? sknebel?
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sknebel !rt http://twtr.io/1fP51bx2JA9
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Loqi Thanks sknebel and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011647630999355392
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Zegnat thnks :)
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Zegnat I think that covers all the main pages to put a link on. Let me know when YouTube goes live!
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[Vanessa] Huh, Zoom link just gives invalid url for me. ☹
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Zegnat Hmm, [eddie] just got in, it seems. [sdepolo] is also there. So it should work.
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Zegnat What browser, [Vanessa]? I used Chrome.
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[eddie] Oh strange. Yeah, it worked for me
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[eddie] I clicked on the Zoom link listed on the Schedule page
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[Vanessa] Ok will try Chrome. Was on Safari.
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Zegnat All the links should be the same unless I messed up. (Which is of course not impossible.)
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[Vanessa] Just insisting I install an app. Off to the laptop now.
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Zegnat Yes. Zoom will do that. There should still be a YouTube stream on the way for just watching. But has not been announced yet.
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[eddie] Oh yeah I had to download and install an application
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Zegnat Zoom is for conferencing, and also allows you to show your camera to the room and speak. It probably decided software is better for that.
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[Vanessa] I don't wish to share my camera, or install another app, particularly.
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Zegnat Completely fine. You can also turn it all off. Zoom will actually give you a check box to disable webcam before join, which I appreciated :)
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[eddie] If you don’t want to install an app Vanessa, i’d probably wait for the YouTube stream
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[Vanessa] Ok, might let it then.
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[eddie] But yeah, none of us are sharing our cameras right now
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[Vanessa] It's just an app I've never heard of!
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Zegnat is tempted to go on microphone and do a “10 minutes left until start” reminder :P
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[eddie] 😆
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[eddie] #moderatedByZegnat
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Zegnat Isn’t that my job? haha
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[eddie] haha yep
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Zegnat I’m just not sure ... they said the conference was on the ceiling mics. So it could really boom out, haha
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[eddie] oh wow haha
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[aaronpk] YouTube stream is up
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Zegnat Awesome, going to add it everywhere!
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Zegnat !rt http://twtr.io/1fP8KvvYE_h
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[cleverdevil] !rt http://twtr.io/1fP8KvvYE_h
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Loqi Thanks [cleverdevil] and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011656704889458688
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dougbeal o/
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Zegnat I really can’t support two streams on my connection. So I’ll be on YouTube and reachable on IRC all the time. We’ll see where I go after keynotes
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Loqi [superfeedr] "The #IndieWebSummit is live! You can call in with Zoom at https://reliam.zoom.us/j/329576626 to hear..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3821-2/
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gRegor-mobile Not many outlets in this main room. Should have charged my laptop last night.
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jgmac1106 [gRegor-mobile] getting power was quite the adventure this morning
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dougbeal +1 jgmac1106
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[anika] alrighttt we’re connected on zoom
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Zegnat Awesome [anika]!
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[anika] on zoom the camera is pointed at the audience - so watching y’all and listening to tantek’s voice there
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bear is the slide deck someplace or a view of the speaker available?
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[anika] and have another laptop with youtube - tantek’s talking head there 🙂
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aaronpk youtube
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bear ah - perfect
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aaronpk i'll spin the zoom camera around after tantek
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[anika] nice ok
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[anika] can you see us?
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Zegnat (cough: easy on the clapping at the mic)
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[anika] (we’ve muted things on our end)
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aaronpk haha sorry Zegnat
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aaronpk chrisaldrich is in front of the screen with the zoom right now
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tantek__ anika, all set with Berlin Remote Site?
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aaronpk just switched zoom camera around so that should look better I hope
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tantek__ bear, my "slides" were links, and I have the talk outline with links here: https://indieweb.org/2018/state-of-indieweb
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[anika] [tantek] yep
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bear thanks - I was just joining the stream and didn't see where to view them
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tantek__ anika, great! How many in Berlin so far?
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[anika] 8 of us so far
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[anika] https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T03QR2B2T-FBFAF8PHC/img_20180626_194059.jpg?pub_secret=ee704a01d8&name=IMG_20180626_194059.jpg
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tantek__ Anika, awesome!
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aaronpk [anika]: if the audio isn't good you can switch to the youtube stream which is fed from the stage mic
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[anika] You couldn't hear it but people in our room were clapping! Ha
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aaronpk :)
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[anika] Audio seems fine rn, but thanks for the heads up. We'll swap over if it changes
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aaronpk 👍
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[anika] Heyo is it possible to get people to stop clapping close to the microphone? It’s crazy loud and messes with the audio for the first half minute of the next person speaking
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tantek__ anika, no one is that close to the microphone, it must be very sensitive! I'll ask the front row to tone down their claps :)
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[cleverdevil] Wifi isn’t working for me anymore FYI.
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[cleverdevil] Looks like we may have too many clients on the network.
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aaronpk oops I think that was me clapping
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Zegnat The microphone on Zoom is really good. Also meant it was pretty hard to get anything when we were setting up as you got voices from all conversations in the room at the same time.
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[anika] stream here has stopped on zoom
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[anika] youtube still working. checking.
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aaronpk sorry, switch to youtube
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Zegnat YouTube is working, yes
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jalcine wait - what's the link to the youtube livestrea? some people on mastodon have been asking
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Zegnat jalcine, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4a3rm_dagw
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jalcine MVP status, Zegnat lol
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Zegnat It should be on the /2018 and /2018/Schedule pages, as well as in the main IRC channel topic
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jalcine gotcha
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Zegnat (Unless, at some point, I messed up ;) )
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Zegnat ((In which case, let me know!))
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I agree. We need to start planning for the #DoOO community and #IndieWeb. Super stoked as a reader as..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3831-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Seen on the way to #IndieWeb Summit." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3827-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "#ISTE18 #NotAtIste @vconnecting #edtechchat #edtechafterdark #literacies Right now: #IndieWeb Summit..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3823-2/
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aaronpk 20 people on the livestream wow!
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Hello world! – Lovi Designs" by Eric Drechsel on 2018-06-26 https://lovi.star.is/2018/06/26/hello-world/
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[Vanessa] Livestream is great - watching on YouTube. Nice job.
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gRegorLove Power - I haz it now!
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Zegnat Oh nooooo
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gRegorLove Lulz
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Zegnat The cyborgs are on to us now
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gRegorLove Just electrical power
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Zegnat This is probably a good post-work-europe-time, aaronpk. Will be interesting to watch the numbers over the next couple of hours
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jmac Oh dear, if someone was trying to play me off the stage during the lightning intros I didn't hear (and I see that everyone after me is being strict with a timer). sorry!
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gRegorLove We'll let it slide this time, jmac ;) No worries. :)
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jmac I am 💯 on strict lightning-talk time limits and I wish more conferences did it
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jmac I don't know if it's pertinent to IWS, but a technique I've seen at other conferences is that lightning talks interleave presentations with non-slide announcements, so that a non-slide-using person can speak for a couple of minutes while the next presenter fiddles with their laptop and A/V setup.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Notes from #IndieWeb Summit" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes-from-indieweb-summit/
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gRegorLove Thanks for note-taking Zegnat, chrisaldrich, jalcine, jgmac1106!
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jalcine 💯
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Zegnat !rt http://twtr.io/1fPMqQ90PFC
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat Any friendly people still around to help retweet that?
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Zegnat (aaronpk you need a gimbal on that thing :P)
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[Vanessa] I retweeted it - why do you need to do that?
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Zegnat Someone needs to write !rt http://twtr.io/1fPMqQ90PFC
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is taking their lunch break. But it’ll be back scheduling sessions at 13:30 PDT! https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule If there is anything you would be interested in discussing as remote participant, let the closest friendly #IndieWeb person know! (twitter.com/_/status/1011693854939123712)
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Zegnat Then the IndieWeb account will retweet
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Zegnat So it goes out to a much bigger following than just my private account
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[Vanessa] Oh, ok, worth knowing - not that I do a lot of Twitter, but I’ve picked up a few of you n there now.
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Zegnat [eddie], bear, any of you remote folks here still and wanting to make Loqi retweet my lunch message?
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[Vanessa] I have a couple of other Twitter accounts, will make them all do some work for a change…
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Zegnat [kevinmarks], could you do a !rt http://twtr.io/1fPMqQ90PFC ? To let the folks at home know we are on lunch
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@martijnvdven The #IndieWebSummit is taking their lunch break. But it’ll be back scheduling sessions at 13:30 PDT! https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule If there is anything you would be interested in discussing as remote participant, let the closest friendly #IndieWeb person know! (twitter.com/_/status/1011693854939123712)
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Zegnat Guess we just wont be tweeting the lunch break then. I am going to get a refill on water :)
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calumryan !rt http://twtr.io/1fPMqQ90PFC
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Loqi Thanks calumryan and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011696474797699072
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Zegnat Woop!
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Zegnat calumryan++ for organising out of London ;)
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[Vanessa] Oh, I see, you have to do it in here? Sorry. N00b 😞
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Zegnat Right I should have been more clear. Sorry! The “!rt” is a specific command
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Zegnat No matter, your actual on-Twitter retweets will hopefully boost the message along the grapevine.
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Zegnat Who knows how Twitter decides these things
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[Vanessa] OK, I’ll know next time maybe. Hey, I can’t even get my IRC client to log in to chat, so I have to do it all on Slack… And with that, time for me to call it a night, I think. Good fun, I’ve enjoyed it.
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Zegnat Have a good night!
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Zegnat calumryan, any idea how the London HWC lines up timewise with PDX?
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calumryan Zegnat: London time 19:00-20:30 would be 11:00-12:30 PDX time
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Zegnat Maybe some sort of uplink can be done
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bear done
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calumryan the problem with public venue for HWC London is constant background noise from music/other patrons
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bear (sorry - rt done)
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calumryan and WiFi
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2018/Introductions (+35493) "/* Day 1 Introduction */ Dump of full introductions chatlog, featuring external tweets and everything. To be cleaned up." (view diff)
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aaronpk Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 29 karma in this channel (237 overall)
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Zegnat I feel like I should be in a command centre
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aaronpk thats how I will picture you
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Zegnat Phone beeped. Timer ended. I am back at the battle station.
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Zegnat salutes aaronpk
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2018-06-26-13-15-04-IGweJ9jGuf.jpg
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Zegnat jgmac1106 will have to Photoshop me into that picture!
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Zegnat aaronpk, are we going to have remote setups of the session rooms? Do we need anything like that reflected on the schedule grid?
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Loqi [superfeedr] "#IndieWeb Lighting Demo Round" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/indieweb-lighting-demo-round/
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Zegnat That is to say, will we have a row like here: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=2017/Schedule&oldid=38076#Sunday
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aaronpk Yep were getting the hangouts machines working again
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Zegnat Awesome. Let me know what the links are and I am happy to wiki-edit
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Zegnat Create a diversion when the session grid is done, send me pictures, and we’ll get that to automagically appear as well ;)
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IWS-BlueRoom https://hangouts.google.com/call/bSL54vZZIqUrHfIH-67bAAEE
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Zegnat That seemed to work, until IWC left the call :)
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Zegnat Watch as gRegorLove and I battle for most wiki edits to the schedule :P
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gRegorLove Lulz, no, leaving this one to you once we post the photos :)
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IWS-BlueRoom https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/r5e5vexjgbcbzducnel2l4wvaie Blue Room Hangout
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IWS-BlueRoom Blueroom Youtube http://youtu.be/0OUy7jjUN5k
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Spending a Morning on the Indie Web" on 2018-06-26 https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/06/spending-a-morning-on-the-indie-web/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "So I’m watching the live stream of the Indie We..." on 2018-06-26 https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/06/4219/
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Zegnat !rt http://twtr.io/1fPUTSfVgkb
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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gRegorLove !rt http://twtr.io/1fPUTSfVgkb
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Loqi Thanks gRegorLove and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011712589858926592
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2018 (+0) "New live link" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "17 minutes to the first #IndieWebSummit session. Need to fill the board.#IndieWeb" by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-26 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3838-2/
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gRegorLove Zegnat, Bump first session 15 min, subsequent session 5 min
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gRegorLove From the times listed currently
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Zegnat Alright
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aaronpk https://i.imgur.com/SlxSgJs.jpg
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GWG Anyone who wants a Blue Room Invite say so and I'll admit
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Zegnat working on the grid!
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2018/Schedule (-99) "/* Tuesday */ First line" (view diff)
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Zegnat GWG, jgmac1106, gRegorLove, aaronpk: did a quick push of the first line of sessions: https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday
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Zegnat So people can click the hashtags for etherpad
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Zegnat Will now continue with the rest
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gRegorLove Zegnat++
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jgmac1106 https://etherpad.indieweb.org/education
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Zegnat that’s not what was on the sticky jgmac1106! :P
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Zegnat But I will update in the session grid
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jgmac1106 fixing that
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invisible.college toomim edited /2018/Schedule (+31) "/* Tuesday */" (view diff)
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GWG How is the Blue Room volume and video?
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Zegnat argh, conflicts because people want to be helpful
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vanderven.se martijn edited /2018/Schedule () "(-3273) schedule complete?" (view diff)
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Zegnat Do we have all the stream and hangout links to add to the schedule? aaronpk? schmarty? gRegorLove?
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Zegnat All hashtags with linked etherpads are on the schedule
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gRegorLove I'm not sure
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GWG Zegnat: Can you add the Blue room links to the schedule?
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GWG I think you should?
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GWG Blue Room Youtube http://youtu.be/0OUy7jjUN5k
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GWG Blue Room Hangout https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/r5e5vexjgbcbzducnel2l4wvaie
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Zegnat GWG: all live stream links are up
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Zegnat Will add your hangouts link!
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Zegnat Was hoping to get hangout links for the other rooms
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GWG Zegnat: Thank ou
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GWG Didn't want to conflict with your edits
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Zegnat Woops, I killed all of the schedule except todays grid. Fixing ...
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Zegnat !rt http://twtr.io/1fPZJnefMYp
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat Does green room have Hangouts? schmarty?
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Zegnat Does main room have Hangouts? aaronpk?
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[schmarty] Green Room has no screen for hangouts, unfortunately
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Zegnat Gotcha
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[schmarty] we had outlet issues so the streaming laptop is not in a great position to be used for hangouts. i can try to flip it around between sessions.
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Zegnat Focus on streaming over hangouts
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Zegnat 2018/Schedule << [https://indieweb.org/File:sessiongrid2018.jpg Photo of the grid]
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://indieweb.org/File:sessiongrid2018.jpg Photo of the grid]" to a new "See Also" section of /2018/Schedule https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=49139&oldid=49137
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loqi.me edited /2018/Schedule (+85) "Zegnat added "[https://indieweb.org/File:sessiongrid2018.jpg Photo of the grid]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Zegnat Sessions are ending in 2~7 minutes!
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gRegorLove I've got photos of the whiteboard foe #indielib
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gRegorLove education etherpad link is redirecting, weirdly. Adds an underscore?
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Zegnat I wouldn’t be too bothered, as long as we have the notes captured we will archive to wiki anyway
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Zegnat Only 5 minutes until next session! https://indieweb.org/2018/Schedule#Tuesday - ping your friendly organisers
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[schmarty] thanks, zegnat!
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Zegnat I linked the schedule [schmarty], come on, stay on top of the game! ;)
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gRegorLove Sorry, times are off. Next session is 15:05
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gRegorLove Fixing
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Zegnat I already moved those times by 5 minutes ...
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Zegnat Is the blueroom hangouts struggling?
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Zegnat GWG: Hangouts issues?
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Zegnat gRegorLove, have you gone into a new session now? Want me to move time slots by 5 minutes again?
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GWG It went dead
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GWG A lot of it did
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GWG Working on it
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Zegnat We are restarting all the streaming URLs for every session? This will be hell on the schedule
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GWG I think we're back on
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GWG No
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GWG I should have the same URL
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Loqi yea
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Zegnat I am going by and testing now, GWG
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GWG It seems to be on
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Zegnat Alright, only green switched URL
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Zegnat all is fine
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aaronpk Here are the times https://i.imgur.com/OnDLSpl.jpg
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Zegnat GWG: did my speaking come through?
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GWG Yes, it hiccuped for a moment
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Zegnat noscript, for user-agents that do not do scripting, are like div tags and shouldn’t be ignored. If you have a JavaScript based website, you can still put parsable HTML in <noscript>. If a mf2parser does not do scripting (which it doesnt) it will parse the noscript contents. E.g. <noscript>===<div> in those cases. (Is what I said.)
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Zegnat aaronpk: I will fix the times
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aaronpk Thank you magic internet person
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Zegnat GWG: uhoo, blue room went black for me
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[eddie] Blue Room YouTube went down
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[eddie] same here
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[schmarty] our wifi has been sketch
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[eddie] it’s back!
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Zegnat !rt https://twitter.com/martijnvdven/status/1011725972549357569
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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Zegnat Apparently the tweet with the schedule for the remotes never went out on the IWC account :o
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[eddie] !rt https://twitter.com/martijnvdven/status/1011725972549357569
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Loqi Thanks [eddie] and Zegnat! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1011738330415808513
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Zegnat Thanks [sdepolo] for pointing out
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[eddie] GWG: I post with audio tag as well on my website (eddiehinkle.com)
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GWG u-audio?
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[eddie] yep
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GWG https://github.com/microformats/h-entry/issues/10
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Loqi [dshanske] #10 u-read-of/read-status proposed draft
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GWG https://github.com/microformats/h-entry/issues/11
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Loqi [dshanske] #11 u-listen-of/Scrobble draft property
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GWG Eddie, are you publishing listen-of?
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[eddie] Hey sorry for the delay, GWG. Yeah, I publish listen-of. I don’t consume yet though.
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GWG [eddie]: Can you add to Issue 10 above then?
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[eddie] will do
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GWG 11, excuse me
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Zegnat [schmarty], is green room switching stream URL again for next session, or was that a fluke?
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aaronpk yea he started a new URL
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aaronpk I also made a new URL for the main room
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aaronpk oh maybe I didn't
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aaronpk trying again
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aaronpk it looks like this URL will always be the main room https://www.youtube.com/c/Indiewebcamp/live
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Zegnat Fixing schedule
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aaronpk thx
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Zegnat Still waiting for new green room link
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Zegnat Ah, there it is!
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GWG Zegnat, are you following me?
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Zegnat GWG, always.
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GWG I meant, our interests aligned
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Zegnat Vouch was high on my list. For this time slot I didn’t really have a favourite. So I might drop out of microsub midway. We’ll see
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GWG Zegnat: I will spend some time on the page
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Zegnat If you want me to look into anything on that page, leave a message. I am not 100% sure when I am sleeping yet (may be when you are all having dinner) but will definitely get to it